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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Vigilante justice is still justice, and murder is simply a legal concept that varies from state to state. In most states "sudden passion" is a mitigating factor that can reduce murder to manslaughter. Granted, it get's a little hard to argue sudden passion after about your 11th kill.
    We can't trust individuals to deal out proper punishment for crimes. Individuals don't need proper evidence, nor do they discern things out rationally. No matter what crime the victim has committed, any respectable court would try them as a murderer. We can't just let people go around killing people, no matter how justified some would see it to be.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    I think what he's trying to say is there's a difference between a little girl being brutally forced to engage in sexual activities, and a little girl willingly engaging in sexual activities. I think he's not saying that either should be accepted behavior, but that one obviously requires a much greater level of sadism, and that that should effect our judgement of it. He's also saying that we hardly know anything at this point, and we shouldn't be passing such extreme judgement yet. At the very worst he's saying that children have the proper knowledge and judgement skills to make an informed decision on whether or not to have sex. I think he's simply acknowledging that technically they can consent, as any conscious being can consent.

    Even if I'm wrong he's nowhere near as ignorant as the people; Who are basically just saying the little girl was a slut and was asking for it.



    I fail to see how his views are similar to their's.
    Shoot, I didn't even see DoL's post that the girl is lying. That supports what I've said. I don't have time right now to compile the other posts that led me to my conclusion. I'll have to do that later.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Shoot, I didn't even see DoL's post that the girl is lying. That supports what I've said. I don't have time right now to compile the other posts that led me to my conclusion. I'll have to do that later.
    Don't worry, I've already proven you wrong. No need to waste your time trying to caress your little ego.

    You ever heard of a crime of passion? That's not an excuse for the killer to walk, just to try to avoid the death penalty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    We can't trust individuals to deal out proper punishment for crimes. Individuals don't need proper evidence, nor do they discern things out rationally. No matter what crime the victim has committed, any respectable court would try them as a murderer. We can't just let people go around killing people, no matter how justified some would see it to be.
    And why can't we trust them? Because people like him would have not hesitated to kill that teacher for being accused of molesting those two little girls. Come to find out later, she didn't do anything. X factor wouldn't care, he is of the mindset that if 10 innocent people die its better than one guilty person walking as he's already stated in this thread (I think it was him) that its ok if a few "innocents" die just so long as the guilty one dies too. As long as he keeps an attitude like that, he isn't worth reasoning with.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Really? Well just like most on the right, you might want to open your eyes and read what's actually been posted.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059334866

    And for the record, for the idiots on here who think I condone this ****, in no way do I think this girl consented. Even if she said yes, at 11, she has no idea what shes saying yes to. Now, rightwingnutjobs, is that clear enough?

    Jeez, it's like reasoning with a dead rat.
    Even the dead rat has you beat by several IQ points. Why you think you have any credibility here is beyond me. It's too late to make assertions like that and be believed. You've already tipped your hand.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    We can't trust individuals to deal out proper punishment for crimes. Individuals don't need proper evidence, nor do they discern things out rationally. No matter what crime the victim has committed, any respectable court would try them as a murderer. We can't just let people go around killing people, no matter how justified some would see it to be.
    I don't disagree with you on this necessarily. I understand why revenge killings cannot and should not be legal. I've never argued otherwise. I do think, though, that the circumstances surrounding such a killing should be something the jury gets to hear, then let the chips fall where they may.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Even the dead rat has you beat by several IQ points. Why you think you have any credibility here is beyond me. It's too late to make assertions like that and be believed. You've already tipped your hand.
    LOL yea right, I'm not getting into a dick measuring contest with someone as imbicillic as you. But I promise you, people who read this thread will say that I look at things rationally, with links and stats, you just attack out of hate.

    Yea, let me tell you, its MY credibility that's been hurt here. LOL ROTFLMAO

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Don't worry, I've already proven you wrong. No need to waste your time trying to caress your little ego.

    You ever heard of a crime of passion? That's not an excuse for the killer to walk, just to try to avoid the death penalty.



    And why can't we trust them? Because people like him would have not hesitated to kill that teacher for being accused of molesting those two little girls. Come to find out later, she didn't do anything. X factor wouldn't care, he is of the mindset that if 10 innocent people die its better than one guilty person walking as he's already stated in this thread (I think it was him) that its ok if a few "innocents" die just so long as the guilty one dies too. As long as he keeps an attitude like that, he isn't worth reasoning with.
    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    LOL yea right, I'm not getting into a dick measuring contest with someone as imbicillic as you. But I promise you, people who read this thread will say that I look at things rationally, with links and stats, you just attack out of hate.

    Yea, let me tell you, its MY credibility that's been hurt here. LOL ROTFLMAO

    Insulting him doesn't really do wonders for your image. You aren't aggressively going against his point. You're just kind of taking pointless shots at him. All this does is turn this thread into the stage for a flame war, which it has pretty much already become. So, please stop contributing to the problem.
    Last edited by Arcadius; 03-11-11 at 11:17 AM.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    Insulting him doesn't really do wonders for your image. You aren't aggressively going against his point. You're just kind of taking pointless shots at him.
    He has no point. His point has been proven wrong with links. All he's doing is taking pointless shots at me. So I reply back. If he can't take it, don't dish it out. He says I support the ****, I prove him wrong, and so he insults me. And it's ME that is contributing to the problem? LOLOL I think you need to stop only quoting me and quote what I am replying to, otherwise you're just as biased as he is.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    You're just condemning everyone who didn't react with intense anger and disgust.
    Anger and disgust at the gang rape of children is a natural, human reaction for those with a healthy sense of compassion, and with a decent sense of right and wrong.

    Those who DON'T react with anger and disgust give every indication of a pathology of some sort -- most likely, thay of a sociopath with an incapability to feel empathy.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Don't worry, I've already proven you wrong. No need to waste your time trying to caress your little ego.
    Hummmm, could you be more obvious about not wanting me to compile some of your posts? That just makes me want to do it more. It'll be something for you to look forward to.

    You ever heard of a crime of passion? That's not an excuse for the killer to walk, just to try to avoid the death penalty.
    Ever hear of it? I'm the one who brought it up.



    And why can't we trust them? Because people like him would have not hesitated to kill that teacher for being accused of molesting those two little girls. Come to find out later, she didn't do anything. X factor wouldn't care, he is of the mindset that if 10 innocent people die its better than one guilty person walking as he's already stated in this thread (I think it was him) that its ok if a few "innocents" die just so long as the guilty one dies too. As long as he keeps an attitude like that, he isn't worth reasoning with.
    Nope, never said that. Just add it to your growing list of falsehoods.
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