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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    A non-emotional perspective gives an unbiased, more realistic outlook into things
    Ah, so THAT'S why gang raping children is no big deal.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Except that Arc is not posting as any of those professions, so what possible value could there be in minimizing this?
    Although his word choice wasn't ideal, I understood his general sentiment. I think understanding people, from regular people to murderers and rapists, is beneficial for everyone. It's not that I think they deserve to be understood or that their actions are valid or inconsequential in anyway, but just that understanding leads to more civil and informed political decisions.

    To explain my position: I studied international relations in college and took a terrorism class where we had to analyze terrorism and 9/11 from a non-emotional point of view and gained a much better understanding of the motives behind and potential causes of 9/11 than I had when I was just evaluating it from the point of being pissed that al-Qaeda killed 3000 innocent Americans.

    After that, I started taking that approach to everything just because I like to understand things from as many perspectives as possible. I can understand why people disagree and I don't see much reason to try to force my approach to crimes like this on you. But that's just my opinion. It doesn't mean that when I stop analyzing, I don't feel anger and disgust. It's just dissociation with a purpose.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Guys, seriously. Can't you see what he's doing? He's sitting cross-legged in the forum, drawing more and more attention to himself by patronizing us with condescending remarks that we, the peons, cannot possibly see the vast world view that because of his amazing god-like awesomeness simply flows through his brain by virtue of his personal connection to a cosmos we lesser beings cannot hope to comprehend.

    We have to ignore... seriously, ignore. He'll go away then. He wants our attention, he wants to show how superior he is to us. Let's not give him that satisfaction!
    Yeah, but how many sock puppets does Agnapostate have?
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yeah, that's probably it.
    I've just never met someone who actually had any idea what I was trying to say. It leads me to believe I'm just bad with words.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Psychopaths also feel the same way.
    You must be baiting me with that comment.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Guys, seriously. Can't you see what he's doing? He's sitting cross-legged in the forum, drawing more and more attention to himself by patronizing us with condescending remarks that we, the peons, cannot possibly see the vast world view that because of his amazing god-like awesomeness simply flows through his brain by virtue of his personal connection to a cosmos we lesser beings cannot hope to comprehend.

    We have to ignore... seriously, ignore. He'll go away then. He wants our attention, he wants to show how superior he is to us. Let's not give him that satisfaction!
    But I'm not trolling, at all, this is just how I think. I've entertained that I most likely have some sort of psychological disorder. I don't think i'm superior. I just think people are refusing to look at things from my perspective. I'm not saying my perspective is better, it just gives a certain insight that yours does not.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Calling it "non-emotional" may be a good way to fool people into thinking you aren't tivializing the gang rape of children, but intelligent people see through the sophistry and find themselves wondering about the agenda involved -- especially since pedofiles establish similar patterns in terms of their attempts to normalize their predation of children.
    I'm not going to argue with someone accusing me of the things that you are. Psychologists who evaluate criminals aren't trivializing their crimes, neither is anyone on this board as far as I can tell, neither are the people who report these crimes in the news (if you notice, they don't get angry and start talking about killing people). You need to evaluate yourself before you start treading on the types of accusations you're approaching.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Although his word choice wasn't ideal, I understood his general sentiment. I think understanding people, from regular people to murderers and rapists, is beneficial for everyone. It's not that I think they deserve to be understood or that their actions are valid or inconsequential in anyway, but just that understanding leads to more civil and informed political decisions.

    To explain my position: I studied international relations in college and took a terrorism class where we had to analyze terrorism and 9/11 from a non-emotional point of view and gained a much better understanding of the motives behind and potential causes of 9/11 than I had when I was just evaluating it from the point of being pissed that al-Qaeda killed 3000 innocent Americans.

    After that, I started taking that approach to everything just because I like to understand things from as many perspectives as possible. I can understand why people disagree and I don't see much reason to try to force my approach to crimes like this on you. But that's just my opinion. It doesn't mean that when I stop analyzing, I don't feel anger and disgust. It's just dissociation with a purpose.
    Thank you. That's basically the general concept I was going for. I seem to be terrible with words.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    Thank you. That's basically the general concept I was going for. I seem to be terrible with words.
    No. You're not terrible with words. They just don't want to hear what your saying. Because you aren't reacting exclusively with rage, they assume that something must be wrong with you (i.e. that you're condoning or minimizing rape). I wouldn't argue with people like this.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    But I'm not trolling, at all, this is just how I think. I've entertained that I most likely have some sort of psychological disorder. I don't think i'm superior. I just think people are refusing to look at things from my perspective. I'm not saying my perspective is better, it just gives a certain insight that yours does not.
    Could you share this insight, Arcadius?

    Most people do understand what went on when that little girl was raped and they understand the motives behind those who raped her. We can easily back away and look at the situation with some perspective. But no matter how much perspective we achieve we are still left with a little girl who was raped by a group of men who should have known better, who should have known that having sex with an underage girl was legally and morally wrong. No amount of 'perspective' will change that.

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