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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    I'm not saying it's not horrible. I'm saying the significance of other acts casts a shadow that makes this one look insignificant to me. I deplore acts like this one. But I can't help but see how small it is compared to other things. I'd give some sort of example, but I'd rather not think about such a thing.
    Horrid acts like this are measured individually, not in comparison to other horrid acts. You can not diminish what happened to her because you feel something as bad or worse happened to someone else.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Horrid acts like this are measured individually, not in comparison to other horrid acts. You can not diminish what happened to her because you feel something as bad or worse happened to someone else.
    So, you're saying that this act is equal to the Darfur genocide. Haven't you ever heard of the lesser of two evils? I can not condone rape. But one has two acknowledge the amount of damage caused by one crime, and the amount of damage caused by another.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    So you're admitting you base your ideals off of emotion. That is not what I said, that is your interpretation of my words.

    .That's not how the law is set up. Nobody is talking about the law, we are talking about what a father would do if his daughter was raped.

    So continue to push that to justify your behavior on here and all you do is prove your opinion is biased.I'm not trying to justify anything, I am just telling you what I would do. Take it or leave it.

    You're basically saying that because I don't have kids, my opinion is "not qualified" and I will turn that around on you and say because you DO have kids, your opinion is biased, thus not qualified. See how easy that is?Turn it around any way you want, doesn't change your qualifications and knowledge on the matter of children and fathers.

    And why keep just mentioning daughters? Sons are sexually abused every day too. What, they don't count? The fact that you specify the sex of the child to matter bothers me greatly.This story is about a daughter and I have experience with daughters. It could easily apply to boys, but in this case it does not.
    Try to keep up.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    So, you're saying that this act is equal to the Darfur genocide. Haven't you ever heard of the lesser of two evils? I can not condone rape. But one has two acknowledge the amount of damage caused by one crime, and the amount of damage caused by another.
    Death is death. You look at these things individually. You do a disservice to equate away inhuman behavior. How can anything be "bad" in light of the Darfur Genocide...or the Holocaust. It can because it is regardless of Darfur or the Holocaust.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Death is death. You look at these things individually. You do a disservice to equate away inhuman behavior. How can anything be "bad" in light of the Darfur Genocide...or the Holocaust. It can because it is regardless of Darfur or the Holocaust.
    So, you're saying all inhuman behavior melds together. So, if you could somehow stop nuclear war, but you had to allow this same thing to happen to another little girl, you wouldn't because both acts are ultimately both damaging and evil? I'm going by the amount of damage two things cause. It's safe to say the holocaust did far more damage than this. I would wish this on a little girl a thousand times if it would stop something like the holocaust from happening. I have nothing but disdain for this kind of behavior, but one has to look at things realistically. One's detrimental effects are greater than the other's. You're looking it things through your own philosophical filter. I'm just looking at things from a purely objective standpoint.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Some of them were adults, some of them were children. I think that further compounds the quilt of the adults.
    At least 18 charged in alleged gang rape of Texas girl - CNN.com
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    So, you're saying all inhuman behavior melds together. So, if you could somehow stop nuclear war, but you had to allow this same thing to happen to another little girl, you wouldn't because both acts are ultimately both damaging and evil? I'm going by the amount of damage two things cause. It's safe to say the holocaust did far more damage than this. I would wish this on a little girl a thousand times if it would stop something like the holocaust from happening. I have nothing but disdain for this kind of behavior, but one has to look at things realistically. One's detrimental effects are greater than the other's. You're looking it things through your own philosophical filter. I'm just looking at things from a purely objective standpoint.
    No, I'm saying all inhuman behavior must be viewed individually, not in comparison to other inhuman behavior.

    I'm not going to play what if games....
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    You're point is?
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm sorry, are you saying a child can validly consent to sex?
    That depends on the child. However, at age 11 I would say most are capable of engaging in consensual sexual activity, even if you think that is wrong.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    That depends on the child. However, at age 11 I would say most are capable of engaging in consensual sexual activity, even if you think that is wrong.
    Does your interpreting it as "consensual" help you rationalize the pedophilia?
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