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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I feel bad for everyone involved. It's a bad situation all the way around. The poor girl, sheesh, shes messed up for life. And those young adults that made a one-time stupid decision have ruined the rest of their lives. It's just bad all the way around.

    I wish'd it of never happened.

    Oh yea, Ikari, X factor comes across as a bunch of hot air to me. I know men 10 times tougher than him that came back from Iraq after having been in a firefight and killing insurgents who were SHOOTING AT THEM and they are visibly shaken by having to take another mans life, and in that case, they had no choice. I would say 95% of people who say they would shoot these people would not do it, or would do it and run like a scared rat. They wouldn't take their consequences like a man. It's easy to talk tough on a web forum, in real life though, that's a whole 'nother story. He wants to be seen as all "tough" to his fellow web members, but usually the ones that talk the most trash are the ones that would cower in a real incident.
    Perhaps some would, I know that I wouldn't and it has nothing to do with being tough. It has everything to do with not thinking of the person being put to death as deserving life as well as thinking of them as somewhat less than human. I don't like the idea of killing spiders or rats or anything really. But if that rat killed a person I would. If that spider was poisonous I would. If that human was guilty of murder or rape I could. Wouldn't like it and wouldn't feel like a tough guy, just a guy that stands by his values and is willing to see the job done. There are types like me and you can accept it or not.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Perhaps some would, I know that I wouldn't and it has nothing to do with being tough. It has everything to do with not thinking of the person being put to death as deserving life as well as thinking of them as somewhat less than human. I don't like the idea of killing spiders or rats or anything really. But if that rat killed a person I would. If that spider was poisonous I would. If that human was guilty of murder or rape I could. Wouldn't like it and wouldn't feel like a tough guy, just a guy that stands by his values and is willing to see the job done. There are types like me and you can accept it or not.
    "Types" like you have a number and an orange jumpsuit. Well call them "lifers".

    Committing one violent crime in the name of another is putting yourself at their level. I would look at you both and say "what idiots."
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If an adult male can't tell the difference between an eleven year old girl and a seventeen year old girl, then he is an idiot of epic proportions and regardless, rape is rape. Death Penalty...
    You probably won't believe me, but when I was in 8th grade (13 yrs old), their was a girl who honestly, in every way, looked like she was 16-17. She looked 13 when we were in 4th grade. I wouldn't be surprised if an 11 year old looked 16-17 esp. now when so many girls look and dress much older (look at the younger Kardashians/Jenners that are always in the news.)

    But that is a minor point (I just wanted to tell you my experience), regardless of age...gang raping any person of any age, particularly in such numbers, is disgusting no matter what. But I wouldn't say death penalty. I would want to kill them based on my emotions, but a justice system built on revenge isn't my cup of tea particularly when in our society, life in prison is enough to keep society safe.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You probably won't believe me, but when I was in 8th grade (13 yrs old), their was a girl who honestly, in every way, looked like she was 16-17. She looked 13 when we were in 4th grade. I wouldn't be surprised if an 11 year old looked 16-17 esp. now when so many girls look and dress much older (look at the younger Kardashians/Jenners that are always in the news.)

    But that is a minor point (I just wanted to tell you my experience), regardless of age...gang raping any person of any age, particularly in such numbers, is disgusting no matter what. But I wouldn't say death penalty. I would want to kill them based on my emotions, but a justice system built on revenge isn't my cup of tea particularly when in our society, life in prison is enough to keep society safe.
    I don't know if its just the way I'm wired, but forced sex doesn't turn me on at all. Rape, by itself, disgusts me in every way. I can't imagine doing that to someone. I can't imagine physically harming someone unless my life, or anothers life, was in direct and absolute danger. I felt bad as a teen pulling around a little friend of mine who was several years younger than me with my bike with him on a little scooter. I took a hard turn, inertia took him around the outside of the turn and he couldn't hold on and he crashed bad. He was all scraped up after sliding across the concrete. I felt horrible for months after that. Finally his mom had to tell me to my face "Look, accidents happen. You didn't mean any harm, you were just playing, I'm not mad at all at you, ok?"

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You'd also have to be prepared to spend the rest of your life behind bars, and rightfully so. Murders go to jail. Would you admit what you did or would you run and cower and try to avoid prosecution? Most people who talk big like this aren't actually prepared to stand by the full of the commitment and integrity of the position.
    You're asking if I would accept the potential consequences? I'd have to, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want my lawyers to put up a spirited defense. Still, if a jury, after hearing all the facts, felt I deserved whatever sentence, I'd be prepared to accept that.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I feel bad for everyone involved. It's a bad situation all the way around. The poor girl, sheesh, shes messed up for life. And those young adults that made a one-time stupid decision have ruined the rest of their lives. It's just bad all the way around.

    I wish'd it of never happened.

    Oh yea, Ikari, X factor comes across as a bunch of hot air to me. I know men 10 times tougher than him that came back from Iraq after having been in a firefight and killing insurgents who were SHOOTING AT THEM and they are visibly shaken by having to take another mans life, and in that case, they had no choice. I would say 95% of people who say they would shoot these people would not do it, or would do it and run like a scared rat. They wouldn't take their consequences like a man. It's easy to talk tough on a web forum, in real life though, that's a whole 'nother story. He wants to be seen as all "tough" to his fellow web members, but usually the ones that talk the most trash are the ones that would cower in a real incident.
    I'm not trying to come off as a tough guy at all. I don't think my position is at all admirable, but it is honest. It is probably more admirable to be able to forgive the miserable bastards. I'm just trying to answer as honestly as possible, my gut reaction is that if this happened to my child in this way, I think I would be quite capable of killing.

    BTW, I think your little rant against me is only because your butt-hurt that I cannot be convinced that a molester should walk just because the only evidence against him is the word of the victim.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

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    I don't know about that. When I was in 6th grade there was a girl with boobs.
    And when I was in 6th grade not one girl in 3 different schools had boobs. (my folks moved 3 different times that year...really sucked)
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm not trying to come off as a tough guy at all. I don't think my position is at all admirable, but it is honest. It is probably more admirable to be able to forgive the miserable bastards. I'm just trying to answer as honestly as possible, my gut reaction is that if this happened to my child in this way, I think I would be quite capable of killing.

    BTW, I think your little rant against me is only because your butt-hurt that I cannot be convinced that a molester should walk just because the only evidence against him is the word of the victim.
    You're only saying that because you aren't the accused.

    And you'd be wrong anyway. I said that about you before we had the discussion about verbal testimony. Time lines are very important young man.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    You're only saying that because you aren't the accused.

    And you'd be wrong anyway. I said that about you before we had the discussion about verbal testimony. Time lines are very important young man.
    This is just not true. We had the discussion about witness testimony about a page and a half before you posted your rant.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    The thing about murder trials is that it only takes one juror to stop a conviction. Anyone that sympathized with, in this case X Factor, could make it to where he walked. I for one would be one of those jurors.
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