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    Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    "Playing a game of political chicken, Democratic senators who fled Wisconsin to stymie restrictions on public-employee unions said Sunday they planned to come back from exile soon, betting that even though their return will allow the bill to pass, the curbs are so unpopular they'll taint the state's Republican governor and legislators.

    The Republicans rejected the idea that the legislation would hurt the GOP. "If you think this is a bad bill for Republicans, why didn't you stand up in the chamber and debate us about it three weeks ago?" said Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald. "People think it's absolutely ridiculous that these 14 senators have not been in Wisconsin for three weeks." "



    I think the first two paragraphs sum up both sides hopes pretty well. It's obvious at this point that the bill is going to pass. Time will tell if the bill was a responsible solution, but I think the bigger impact has been the attention drawn to the issue.

    I, as many of you know, am against the bill but understand unfortunately that the show must go on.

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    It's pretty clear that the bill was an unnecessary solution considering that union members agreed to the other terms so long as their collective bargaining wasn't taken away.

    From my perspective, Walker destroyed his career. Not only did the police and fireman who endorsed him and were exempt from his scheme turn on him, he was also caught in an embarrassing phone call where everybody's suspicions were confirmed. Good riddance. Americans fought for unions and now we have to fight to maintain them.

    In a way, it's good that this became such a huge issue, maybe in 2012, Democrats won't stay home from the polls to retaliate against Obama and those who belong to unions will realize that Republican Party is not on their side.

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    Keep hope alive, liberals. You have all screwed the pooch and are writhing in fetal positions and screaming in flea ridden pillows in secret places like the syphilitic cowards you are.

    Perhaps the citizens' memories will be long enough by the next election to give the running reps their just deserts.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's pretty clear that the bill was an unnecessary solution considering that union members agreed to the other terms so long as their collective bargaining wasn't taken away.

    From my perspective, Walker destroyed his career. Not only did the police and fireman who endorsed him and were exempt from his scheme turn on him, he was also caught in an embarrassing phone call where everybody's suspicions were confirmed. Good riddance. Americans fought for unions and now we have to fight to maintain them.

    In a way, it's good that this became such a huge issue, maybe in 2012, Democrats won't stay home from the polls to retaliate against Obama and those who belong to unions will realize that Republican Party is not on their side.



    You mean you fought for the right to ****ty teachers who are kept based on time, not on merit? Awesome....
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Gein View Post
    Keep hope alive, liberals. You have all screwed the pooch and are writhing in fetal positions and screaming in flea ridden pillows in secret places like the syphilitic cowards you are.

    Perhaps the citizens' memories will be long enough by the next election to give the running reps their just deserts.
    You realize hyper-partisan babble earns you no respect, right? I find it no surprise that you've been banned on other boards that you've joined. If you care to add anything of value to the conversation, I will be waiting.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You mean you fought for the right to ****ty teachers who are kept based on time, not on merit? Awesome....
    With all due respect, Rev, that wasn't quite the point. I actually agree that seniority over merit is a terrible system (although a merit based system has it's flaws, such as favoritism, as well) but at the end of the day, that wasn't what this argument was about. Sure, if the layoffs went into effect, the youngest, not the worst teachers would be canned, but it's still not the reason for all the fuss.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    You realize hyper-partisan babble earns you no respect, right? I find it no surprise that you've been banned on other boards that you've joined. If you care to add anything of value to the conversation, I will be waiting.
    Don't shoot the messenger, Lib. Your cause is yesterday's news, and my contribution to your thread of fantasy is not only pertinent, but far more measured and respectful than you thugs deserve.

    A little dose of reality to put a smile on your smug mug.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    With all due respect, Rev, that wasn't quite the point. I actually agree that seniority over merit is a terrible system (although a merit based system has it's flaws, such as favoritism, as well) but at the end of the day, that wasn't what this argument was about. Sure, if the layoffs went into effect, the youngest, not the worst teachers would be canned, but it's still not the reason for all the fuss.


    you are right, the reason for the "fuss" is that the dems left teh state, giving the unions ample time to protest cuts, that the state has to make.


    BTW are the teachers back teaching?
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Clearly you don't read my posts on a regular basis, or you would not pretend to know what I stand for. I fall on the side of the unions in this position, but in general your style of posting adds nothing to the debate at hand.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Clearly you don't read my posts on a regular basis, or you would not pretend to know what I stand for. I fall on the side of the unions in this position, but in general your style of posting adds nothing to the debate at hand.



    I'm talking about the unions, you are talking about the Good Reverend, Cleary, "I" am the problem here, who "adds nothing to the debate at hand".
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