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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As for the steps Wisconsin has taken to date to reduce its financial woes, I really don't know what they did beforehand. All I know is what's being reported in the national media, towit, their Governor has never given a reason that justifies going after unions and public workers. I'd like to think he took all the right steps in this matter, but based on that bogus phone call he got caught up in...let's just say he'll have to answer to his constituences and leave it at that.
    "....going after..."

    The only ones who think the governor is "going after" anyone are those people who either belong to unions or are receiving public pensions...and that's all-told less than 12% of workers in the USA.

    As to your "....leave it at that....," I agree. So where are the Democrats? Oh, wait, they're busy in Grayslake, Illinois subverting democracy.
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    "....going after..."

    The only ones who think the governor is "going after" anyone are those people who either belong to unions or are receiving public pensions...and that's all-told less than 12% of workers in the USA.

    As to your "....leave it at that....," I agree. So where are the Democrats? Oh, wait, they're busy in Grayslake, Illinois subverting democracy.

    that's patently untrue.
    i neither belong to a union OR receive a public pension, and i KNOW the governor is going after unions. if not, he would have acceptd all the monetary concessions the union made. instead, "this is his moment"......the man is ego driven and a MAJORITY of people across WI disagree with him.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    The Democrats are laughable. They were willing to watch others get pink slips and now regardless what they say there are folding because because it't about to cost them cash.

    What happened to the BS? Gone with the wind. Or is it hot are.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post

    that's patently untrue.
    i neither belong to a union OR receive a public pension, and i KNOW the governor is going after unions. if not, he would have acceptd all the monetary concessions the union made. instead, "this is his moment"......the man is ego driven and a MAJORITY of people across WI disagree with him.

    BS....The people of WI voted him in ON THAT PLATFORM! I could care less if you are a union member or not, in the end your goals are the same. Take my money that I earned, and give it to someone that is not willing to put forth the effort to earn it. I will fight that at every turn.


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post

    that's patently untrue.
    i neither belong to a union OR receive a public pension, and i KNOW the governor is going after unions. if not, he would have acceptd all the monetary concessions the union made. instead, "this is his moment"......the man is ego driven and a MAJORITY of people across WI disagree with him.
    Well, everyone makes mistakes.

    If a majority of people across Wisconsin disagree with him, they can recall him. He'll be a one-term-less-than-wonder. But in the meantime, the democratic process is being subverted by whiney crybabies who can't stand that they lost their majority. As President Obama said, "Elections have consequences." (I guess you think he meant, "....unless Republicans win.")

    And instead of being quick to point out that you're an exception, and reminding me I should never speak in absolutes, how about addressing the real issue: What is wrong with giving taxpayers a voice in how their tax dollars are being spent?
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    BS....The people of WI voted him in ON THAT PLATFORM! I could care less if you are a union member or not, in the end your goals are the same. Take my money that I earned, and give it to someone that is not willing to put forth the effort to earn it. I will fight that at every turn.


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    maggie said that the only people who thought walker was out to get the unions were union employees or retired employees. that's NOT TRUE, plain and simple. and i just love that you think teachers aren't willing to earn the salaries. what about cops and firemen? what about postal workers? who should decide their salaries? you?

    btw......where can i find that walker campaigned on taking away collective bargaining from teachers? i can't find that ANYWHERE.
    Last edited by liblady; 03-07-11 at 03:01 PM.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's pretty clear that the bill was an unnecessary solution considering that union members agreed to the other terms so long as their collective bargaining wasn't taken away.
    Where is this almighty signed declaration from all the union members in Wisconsin?

    From my perspective, Walker destroyed his career. Not only did the police and fireman who endorsed him and were exempt from his scheme turn on him, he was also caught in an embarrassing phone call where everybody's suspicions were confirmed. Good riddance. Americans fought for unions and now we have to fight to maintain them.
    Walker for President!

    In a way, it's good that this became such a huge issue, maybe in 2012, Democrats won't stay home from the polls to retaliate against Obama and those who belong to unions will realize that Republican Party is not on their side.
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Where is this almighty signed declaration from all the union members in Wisconsin?



    Walker for President!



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    It's been reported many times that unions agreed to his conditions in exchange for keeping their bargaining rights. They wanted to 'sign an almighty declaration', but Walker rejected their offer because his aims are about more than money. You need to pay attention to the news.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's been reported many times that unions agreed to his conditions in exchange for keeping their bargaining rights. They wanted to 'sign an almighty declaration', but Walker rejected their offer because his aims are about more than money. You need to pay attention to the news.



    True, the aims are not to be held hostage by inept unions.
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    True, the aims are not to be held hostage by inept unions.
    can you possibly prove that unions are inept, whatever that means?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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