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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    But dont you know that the only spending democrats do is to benefit society and the good of mankind. Evil republicans are solely responsible for the 14 trillion dollar debt. OK...cant really explain how dems managed to add 5 trillion in 4 years with control of all the spending appropriations since 2007 and control of the house, senate and white house up until a few months ago. And that unemployment rate (which doesnt count the number of people no longer ELIGIBLE)...well...thats juts all part of the democrats plan for an economic turnaround.
    There are some very good conspiracy theories - and you do highlight the ideological differences - the simplest of which is one side believes government is the answer, the other believes the government is the problem. There's a lot of grey in between but we have to put some of the responsibility back on these politicians. When they do stupid things, and both ideologies do stupid things, this fuels the extremes to get carried away. I think some extreme members of Congress do fit the cliche's but the majority do not.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is extraordinarily laughable are the conservatives that blame this on democrats...and the liberals that blame this on republicans. How anyone can proudly associate themselves with either side is absolutely beyond me.
    Let's make a distinction - there are Republicans and republicans and there are Conservatives and conservatives, just as there are Democrats and democrats / Liberals and liberals. What I think you meant to say is "Republicans blame this on Democrats". We can haggle all day long on what is and is not a Republican/republican or Conservative/conservative, but when we talk about political parties, I do make a distinction between a Republican and a Conservative of any stripe - they are not one in the same thing just as a Democrat/Liberal/liberal/Progressive are not the same thing.

    I like to discern the action as people freak out when the label is use and your definition of the label doesn't match someone elses... the PC police come out and cry foul and give out tickets for generalizations.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What you are failing to recognize or at least address is that Republicans are bringing up these bills all around the country. The GOP is out to destroy the middle class to benefit their corporate bed buddies....don't fool yourself.


    Are unions "the middle class"? Really?


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Rev...are you really trying to say that there are not countries that exist all over the world in which there is no middle class?
    Nope, but I don't see a country EVER that was overtaken by evil corporations that put themselves out of business... Hows that tin foil hat?


    Countries all around the globe operate the way in which the Republican party is trying to run this country.
    Name them.



    When the wealthy control the vast amounts of wealth, they don't need to continue to produce in the same numbers.

    But then there is no more neat stuff.... Rich people like neat stuff...


    That way they keep massive numbers of hungry in the workforce and drive wages even lower.

    Conspiracy nonsense....



    Corporatists don't have an inherent desire to produce goods, they only have an inherent desire to amass wealth.
    Really? So Ford doesn't want to make trucks? Then why don;t they get into banking...... Duh.....

    I think you haven't thought it through very well yourself -----Doh!

    I have, and I am laughing, and it's not with you.....
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Interesting statement, but I'm sorry violence should always be used as a last resort. Your reasoning about Americans could bemused by the kkk or anyone who disagrees with the status qou. Thus as an american you should instead use your right to work for who you want to and vote for who you want to. Though I do have a slight addendem unless there is a voucher system removing collective bargaining rights from teacher is fundamentally wrong since there is no alternative. Thus my solution to you so no other teacher is put in danger of not having an alternative would be to call for the federal deregulation of schools and the impementation of a voucher system.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are unions "the middle class"? Really?


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    The only people I know who belong to unions are middle class...

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The only people I know who belong to unions are middle class...
    so the world is made up of only people that you know?

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    so the world is made up of only people that you know?

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    Yep. Exactly.

    Also:
    In 2010, among full-time wage and salary workers, union members had median usual weekly earnings of $917, while those who were not represented by unions had median weekly earnings of $717.
    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf

    That's a median of about $48,000 for 52 weeks. Sounds pretty middle class to me.

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