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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    What we are seeing is phase 2 of the well orchestrated war on the middle class by the GOP.

    Phase 1 - Citizens United - Get a right-wing activist court to rule that corporations are "persons" under the Constitution so that Corporations can contribute unlimited amounts of money to buy our elections.

    Phase 2 - Eliminate the voice of the people.

    You people who continue to vote against your own interests by voting GOP should open your eyes. The goal of the GOP is to essentially eliminate the middle class. Keep American workers hungry and they will work for peanuts. That is the "America" that the GOP is bringing you.
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What we are seeing is phase 2 of the well orchestrated war on the middle class by the GOP.

    Phase 1 - Citizens United - Get a right-wing activist court to rule that corporations are "persons" under the Constitution so that Corporations can contribute unlimited amounts of money to buy our elections.

    Phase 2 - Eliminate the voice of the people.

    You people who continue to vote against your own interests by voting GOP should open your eyes. The goal of the GOP is to essentially eliminate the middle class. Keep American workers hungry and they will work for peanuts. That is the "America" that the GOP is bringing you.
    While very nice over-the-top hyperbole, the facts are literally absent. This is a states issue, there's a very real budget gap, and a very real issue with public union's cost to the tax payers, not to mention the Democrats who defy doing their jobs and are ignoring their own system of government and validating the elections of 2010 in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, Ohio and NJ, the GOP is doing a very difficult job - cutting where so many before have spent without consequence. In California and NY, cuts are also being made by Democrats. This is not a "GOP is trying to kill the middle class" any more than DNC is trying to spread socialism and redistribute wealth far and wide. The sooner you understand math, the better off you'll be.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    While very nice over-the-top hyperbole, the facts are literally absent. This is a states issue, there's a very real budget gap, and a very real issue with public union's cost to the tax payers, not to mention the Democrats who defy doing their jobs and are ignoring their own system of government and validating the elections of 2010 in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, Ohio and NJ, the GOP is doing a very difficult job - cutting where so many before have spent without consequence. In California and NY, cuts are also being made by Democrats. This is not a "GOP is trying to kill the middle class" any more than DNC is trying to spread socialism and redistribute wealth far and wide. The sooner you understand math, the better off you'll be.
    What you are failing to recognize or at least address is that Republicans are bringing up these bills all around the country. The GOP is out to destroy the middle class to benefit their corporate bed buddies....don't fool yourself.
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    or you could do what Americans have always done...and fight for what you want...
    Yes you can...and accept your termination paperwork. Who knows...maybe the unions can be as effective at forcing outsourcing of teachers jobs as they were at forcing manufacturing jobs overseas. heres hoping...right?

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What you are failing to recognize or at least address is that Republicans are bringing up these bills all around the country. The GOP is out to destroy the middle class to benefit their corporate bed buddies....don't fool yourself.
    If they destroy the middle class, how are they going to sell people stuff to keep these coporations sellling folks stuff?

    You really didn't think this one through, did you?
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If they destroy the middle class, how are they going to sell people stuff to keep these coporations sellling folks stuff?

    You really didn't think this one through, did you?
    THIS ONE???

    Hey...union puppets just mouth the rhetoric they are told to spew...what do you expect?

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What you are failing to recognize or at least address is that Republicans are bringing up these bills all around the country. The GOP is out to destroy the middle class to benefit their corporate bed buddies....don't fool yourself.
    Until the math is addressed at the State level and the deficits are reduced to a managable size, there is no GOP out to destroy anything. You're issue is just the sting of the DNC losing the elections, of which you know there are consequences. I see your hyperbole the same as I see the "OMGZ!!! The Liberals are all socialists wanting to turn America into Communist China Borg drones!!" hyperbole. Stop addressing the lowest common denomonator and address the fact that this is about math.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Until the math is addressed at the State level and the deficits are reduced to a managable size, there is no GOP out to destroy anything. You're issue is just the sting of the DNC losing the elections, of which you know there are consequences. I see your hyperbole the same as I see the "OMGZ!!! The Liberals are all socialists wanting to turn America into Communist China Borg drones!!" hyperbole. Stop addressing the lowest common denomonator and address the fact that this is about math.
    But dont you know that the only spending democrats do is to benefit society and the good of mankind. Evil republicans are solely responsible for the 14 trillion dollar debt. OK...cant really explain how dems managed to add 5 trillion in 4 years with control of all the spending appropriations since 2007 and control of the house, senate and white house up until a few months ago. And that unemployment rate (which doesnt count the number of people no longer ELIGIBLE)...well...thats juts all part of the democrats plan for an economic turnaround.

    What is extraordinarily laughable are the conservatives that blame this on democrats...and the liberals that blame this on republicans. How anyone can proudly associate themselves with either side is absolutely beyond me.

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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If they destroy the middle class, how are they going to sell people stuff to keep these coporations sellling folks stuff?

    You really didn't think this one through, did you?
    Rev...are you really trying to say that there are not countries that exist all over the world in which there is no middle class? Countries all around the globe operate the way in which the Republican party is trying to run this country. When the wealthy control the vast amounts of wealth, they don't need to continue to produce in the same numbers. That way they keep massive numbers of hungry in the workforce and drive wages even lower.
    Corporatists don't have an inherent desire to produce goods, they only have an inherent desire to amass wealth.
    I think you haven't thought it through very well yourself -----Doh!
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    Re: Wisconsin's Democrats to End Union Standoff

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What we are seeing is phase 2 of the well orchestrated war on the middle class by the GOP.

    Phase 1 - Citizens United - Get a right-wing activist court to rule that corporations are "persons" under the Constitution so that Corporations can contribute unlimited amounts of money to buy our elections.
    Yes of course......only unions should be able to contribute unlimited amounts of money to buy elections.

    Phase 2 - Eliminate the voice of the people.

    You people who continue to vote against your own interests by voting GOP should open your eyes. The goal of the GOP is to essentially eliminate the middle class. Keep American workers hungry and they will work for peanuts. That is the "America" that the GOP is bringing you.
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