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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The ruling that corporations should be treated as person is downright moronic. The whole point of corporations is that they can be bought and sold. If they actually had personal rights, that would be considered slavery. There is no way around that hideous contradiction and the entire concept is inherently broken. There is little point in looking for legal consistency when it is non-existent to start with.
    Yes, this is a violation of the 13th Amendment. We need an abolitionist movement, the sooner the better. Corporations need to be freed from slavery. And, of course, the only way to do this is to kill them all, legally that is. I am serious. We need to kill artificial persons in order to free them. But we can't wait too long. If we do end up waiting too many years, then we will be facing serious opposition from the IBAR Union (International Brotherhood of Androids and Robots).
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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    That's basically what I'm asking.
    Oh dear, really? If you read both decisions there was a clear "distinction" between what was being argued. In Citizens United, corporations, along with unions and organizations were considered protected under the umbrella that ALSO protects United States citizens. It DID NOT say that a corporation is a person..


    Really people? I expected more.


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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    I'm curious as to whether, or not, this pertains to soul proprieterships, too. If so, then I have a huge problem with it.

    Overall, though, I believe that corporations should have certain confidentiality rights. There are some things, such as R&D projects, that I don't feel the public has the right to know about.
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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm curious as to whether, or not, this pertains to soul proprieterships, too. If so, then I have a huge problem with it.

    Overall, though, I believe that corporations should have certain confidentiality rights. There are some things, such as R&D projects, that I don't feel the public has the right to know about.
    They do, and so do you and I. This decision did not change that at all. What they don't have, and neither do you and I, is a right to privacy that is unreasonable. In litigation primarily.. The decision simply clarified this concept.


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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    They do, and so do you and I. This decision did not change that at all. What they don't have, and neither do you and I, is a right to privacy that is unreasonable. In litigation primarily.. The decision simply clarified this concept.


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    Oh. So, this is one of those faux decisions to remove the gray from an area?
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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh. So, this is one of those faux decisions to remove the gray from an area?
    Yes. As I understand it. AT&T attempted to keep certain intellectual property from being "discovered". (Happens all the time by the way) They tried to argue that this property was tantamount to personal medical records, and the like. The Supreme Court wasn't having anything to do with that, and thus ruled exactly how they should have. To the letter of the Constitution... For a change..

    In Citizens United, the Supreme Court 5-4, ruled that coporations, and organizations had an implied right to protection under the first amendment, and that, protection did not end simply because their speech was political in nature.


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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    But but did the same moronic court not state that when it came to political donations then corporations were the same as individuals or something like that?
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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This was a unanimous decision, which probably left Chief Justice Roberts with aching sides due to excessive laughing. And, face it, the claim that an artificial person has all the rights of a real one is laughable. This was an attempt by AT&T to do an end run around existing law by claiming that, as a person, it had the same Fourth Amendment rights as a real person, and as such, was not required to give out information under the Freedom of Information Act.

    What AT&T attempted to claim is tantamount to a commercial I saw one time, that equated a nicotine patch that was being advertised as medicine.

    Sorry, AT&T. No more weasel words from you. Time for you to comply with the law, and start producing the records that the law requires you to provide.

    You are not a real person, AT&T. Get used to that fact, which is only reasonable, because if you were a real person, then I should really be able to kick your ****ing ass.

    Article is here.
    If they are not persons in this case, I believe it sheds new light on their citizens united ruling.

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    Re: Corporations don't have 'personal privacy' rights, Supreme Court rules

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But but did the same moronic court not state that when it came to political donations then corporations were the same as individuals or something like that?
    Yes, and no. It stated that they are like persons in this regard, NOT that they ARE persons. The distinction is what you're missing.


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