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Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

There are very few places I have worked where coffee wasn't provided. I am not sure why this is supposed to be getting my dander up.

Free coffee? Really? Wow. I became self-employed about 20 years ago, but when I worked in both the private and public sectors, employees had to contribute to a coffee fund to purchase coffee/tea supplies. Damn. No wonder every place is going broke nowadays. Do y'all know how much coffee costs now???
 
There are very few places I have worked where coffee wasn't provided. I am not sure why this is supposed to be getting my dander up.
I work at a US Department of Energy facility (Fermilab) and free coffee has always been provided. The government also provides refreshments and souvenirs to facility tour groups.
 
I've got some bad news for you. People outside of rabid Hannity and Beck fans aren't starting to hate unions. According to recent polls, a clear majority (60 - 70% depending on the poll) of Americans stand behind unions. .

Supporting the existence of unions and hating them for becoming too greedy are two different things. I support the existence of unions., I however think many have gotten too damn greedy for their own good.

And as far as this story goes, it's a non-issue. You act like the town was ordered to suddenly start giving free coffee to employees. According to your own source the board gave the priviliges back to the union after the board determined that the privilige was unjustly taken away by the town as retaliation for union members making unfavorable comments at a finance meeting

Whether or not the town provides coffee should only be up to the town.Employees are not not owed coffee.
 
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Supporting the existence of unions and hating them for becoming too greedy are two different things. I support the existence of unions., I however think many have gotten too damn greedy for their own good.



Whether or not the town provides coffee should only be up to the town.Employees are not not owed coffee.

Employers are required to not act in a retaliatory manner.
 
Employees have no legal right to have coffee provided by their employers.

True, but removing a benefit for personal reasons is still retaliation, even if that benefit was not obligated under the law.
 
Management operates the same way. Give as few benefits and as little pay as possible to maximize profits. Workers don't give a **** about the company? Who cares? Turnover? So what... easier to reduce salaries. Greed and selfishness defines both sides of the issue.

Management is held responsible by those who matter, the board and investors. The workers are expendable.
 
Management is held responsible by those who matter, the board and investors. The workers are expendable.

So the majority of the country does not matter. Gotcha. Suddenly a whole lot of your stances make sense to me when seen through that perspective.
 
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Management is held responsible by those who matter, the board and investors. The workers are expendable.

So you agree with me. Greed and selfishness happens on both sides.
 
Management is held responsible by those who matter, the board and investors. The workers are expendable.

Balance Vicchio, balance must be needed.

Mistreating the protaleterian is not something i would suggest.
 
Employees have no legal right to have coffee provided by their employers.
Most employers provide free caffeine for a self-serving reason... to hasten and enhance worker productivity.
 
"From each according to thier ability, to each according to their needs"


j-mac

If that were true, then all the banksters would be on food stamps and welfare.
 
I work at a US Department of Energy facility (Fermilab) and free coffee has always been provided. The government also provides refreshments and souvenirs to facility tour groups.

You mean the American people provide free coffee, refreshments and souvenirs.
 
Most employers provide free caffeine for a self-serving reason... to hasten and enhance worker productivity.

Why? It just makes them pee more, so it kind of evens out in the end. ;)
 
Why? It just makes them pee more, so it kind of evens out in the end. ;)
People are going to drink something in the morning to hydrate anyway, so they're going to whiz regardless.
 
So let me get this straight:

With all the **** going on in the world, what makes you mad is people demanding coffee and casual Fridays? You guys must live charmed lives. I can see it now... "OHHHH THE HUMANITY THEY ARE FORCED TO GIVE OUT FREE COFFEE NOW!"
 
You mean the American people provide free coffee, refreshments and souvenirs.
Yes ma'am.

And I have no problem with the government treating a troupe of teachers/children and showing them some of the marvels of modern American science.
 
And if they agreed with your own views you would be touting them as gospel. But they don't so you attack them instead.

As Gomer Pyle used to say "surprise, surprise".

Go through my relatively short posting history and find where I use one poll to support any position I take.

Oh, there are none? :shrug:

Odd, huh?
 
So the majority of the country does not matter. Gotcha. Suddenly a whole lot of your stances make sense to me when seen through that perspective.

Huh? What are you talking about?
 
Balance Vicchio, balance must be needed.

Mistreating the protaleterian is not something i would suggest.

Comrade, you are so wrong.

You don't get it do you? Business, and for that matter GOVERNMENT.... do not exist to give people kooshy jobs with great benefits. They exist to provide profit to the people who have a vested interest in the company. Or to the PEOPLE.

Least it's supposed to work that way, but sadly we've got a large number of folks that think business are greedy horrible institutions that should be forced to pay workers huge salaries and great benefits because it's unfair the investors and upper management are rich (that's what class warfare does, makes people stupid) and when it comes to public sector jobs that the Government should be a high pay/benefit job creator.
 
Acidic sentiment such as this... is precisely where I part company with mainstream conservatism.

It's not acidic, it's REALITY.

Why is that so hard for people to accept? Let's say you own Tashah's Manufacturing. Now, you had to get money to start this Co. Those people are called investor's. They now have entrusted you with their money not out of CHARITY but because they expect a profit. If you don't provide that, they'll cut their losses and you'll go out of business.

So, ten years go by, you've grown into a big company with multiple factories in many places. Life is good! But there is some economic turmoil, maybe a big contract you had went under, you got out bid for another. Profits are falling, investors are getting worried, the board fears big losses...

You are faced with laying off 10% of your workforce maybe closing a plant...

Or losing the company.

Now, who is expendable? The workers. Welcome to reality Tashah. I'm not cold hearted, I just don't DENY THE TRUTH.
 
Huh? What are you talking about?

If one does not feel that people are important, it allows one to not feel responsible for society.
 
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