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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It is exactly true, at least for Public sector workers. If it were repubs that were the beneficiaries of Union campaign money, you'd be all over these boards typing how it was wrong.


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    You can then show where I have been all over the boards complaining about corporate donations to the republican party, which would be the equivalent. Good luck with that.
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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

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    How do you know that? Do you know Redress?
    Yeah, you're right, we can't throw any hyperbole out there what so ever unless you know the person personally....I guess that leaves you out of posting then eh?....heh, heh, just kidding.....What kind of post is that anyway?


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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why? Are government workers slaves? Simply stating something does not make it true.
    you're right simply stating something doens't make it so ... kinda like the asinine statement asking if government employee's are slaves

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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can then show where I have been all over the boards complaining about corporate donations to the republican party, which would be the equivalent. Good luck with that.
    I'll give credit where credit is due, I have not seen you do that ..... but perhaps just as much of the reason you haven't, is because democrats receive just as much in corporate donations as do republicans

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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can then show where I have been all over the boards complaining about corporate donations to the republican party, which would be the equivalent. Good luck with that.

    Yeah I'll get right on that...Look Red, I like ya, hell on some things I even have agreed in the past with you. But don't for a minute think that a response of 'Oh yeah? Go re-read every one of my postings and show me' is going to deter me. If you haven't done that in the past then I change that to a blanket "liberals"....There, is that better?


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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah I'll get right on that...Look Red, I like ya, hell on some things I even have agreed in the past with you. But don't for a minute think that a response of 'Oh yeah? Go re-read every one of my postings and show me' is going to deter me. If you haven't done that in the past then I change that to a blanket "liberals"....There, is that better?


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    Doesn't work either, since I am a liberal.

    Let me offer you a more rational reason why liberals and democrats are standing up for the teachers union. We feel we are the party of the working class of America. Teachers are part of that working class, and unions represent a fair portion of that working class. Therefore we stand up for those we are supposed to represent. See, this makes sense, and there is no conspiracy or corruption.
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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I don't like polls, and i don't use them as evidence in any argument.

    But i do get a good chuckle when people love to for example continually quote Obama polls when they're going down, poll after poll about how Americans are against this or that, and then when a poll comes out that goes against something they like, it's dismissed completely and doesn't matter...

    They totally matter. That way I can let you know when the world agrees with me... ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEEEE!

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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, you're right, we can't throw any hyperbole out there what so ever unless you know the person personally....I guess that leaves you out of posting then eh?....heh, heh, just kidding.....What kind of post is that anyway?


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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Doesn't work either, since I am a liberal.

    Let me offer you a more rational reason why liberals and democrats are standing up for the teachers union. We feel we are the party of the working class of America. Teachers are part of that working class, and unions represent a fair portion of that working class. Therefore we stand up for those we are supposed to represent. See, this makes sense, and there is no conspiracy or corruption.
    The by the same sense, the conservatives, are for less restrictive taxes on everyone, so there is no conspiracy or corruption, when we defend tax cuts ….. because according to your own assertion it is perfectly acceptable to defend something that is or may be wrong as long as it goes along with the general principles which you stand for.

    The sad part is our government has taken this same stance, and because if it, is it any wonder why things are the way they are ?
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    Re: Connecticut Town Ordered to Pay for Union Workers’ Coffee

    The main thing that hamstrings the public sector with unions is being forced to lay off based on seniority rather than merit. That's the biggie. That's it. When unions agree to accept lay offs based upon merit, the war will be over. Unfortunately, that means that seniority teachers (and others) who would not even be able to pass the teachers' exams that the current teachers must pass, who have records of performance mediocrity and ineffectiveness, must be kept.

    In California, every budget cutting effort that tried to avoid lay offs has been taken to court by the unions, and in many cases overturned by judges who have no choice because of the tightly-locked union contracts that give unions the right to force lay offs (based on seniority) rather than allow budget cutting by furloughs, wage freeze or other methods.

    The contracts have draconean clauses that make it impossible to make any cuts to union costs without the union's permission. Who ratified these draconean union contracts, with California public sector employees making more than their counterparts around the country? The overwhelmingly democratic legislature that depends upon union votes and union campaign contributions to keep their cushy jobs.

    This is totally backward, tail-wagging-dog fiscal strategy based upon partisian politics and greed. It's got to stop sometime. Maybe this finally is the time.

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