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    Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Thousands of Wisconsin state workers were bracing for layoff notices Friday as Republican Gov. Scott Walker and absent Democrats remained in a standoff over a budget balancing bill that would also strip public workers of their collective bargaining rights.

    Walker said he would issue 1,500 layoff notices Friday if at least one of the 14 Senate Democrats doesn't return from Illinois to give the Republican majority the quorum it needs to vote. Senate Republicans voted Thursday to hold the missing Democrats in contempt and force police to bring them back to the Capitol.
    Walker says the bill is needed to ease a deficit that is projected to hit $137 million by July and $3.6 billion by mid-2013. His proposal comes up with the money for this year in part by forcing state employees to pay for half the cost of their pensions and twice their current health care premiums — concessions equivalent to an 8 percent pay cut.

    With the labor bill stalled, Walker said he has to issue layoff notices starting Friday so the state can start to realize the $30 million savings he had assumed would come from the concessions. The layoffs wouldn't be effective for 31 days, and Walker said he could rescind them if the bill passed in the meantime.
    Return or workers will be axed, Wis. Dems told - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

    No good choices here for the unions or the politicians who work for them.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Isn't it telling that Unions and the Democrat 14 would rather see people get a pink slip than to do something that could save their jobs?

    This happens all the time and wrong every time.

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    This is the part that makes me really, really unhappy. True, when there is no money then people have to be laid off. What makes public union contracts so untenable is that the government does not get to choose who to lay off and who to keep. Union contracts force lay-offs to be based on seniority, not merit, so frequently the poor and mediocre employees with seniority stay on, while excellent employees (and teachers) are forced out.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
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    No good choices here for the unions or the politicians who work for them.
    First of all, there's no magic here. The layoff notices reflect a day 30 days in the future. So all can be fixed.

    But honestly? I think we're going to see some kind of compromise. There has to be...
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    This is disgusting, playing with people livelihoods for what amounts to little more than political points, the Democrats should just do the job they're paid for and stop acting like 3 year olds.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Isn't it telling that Unions and the Democrat 14 would rather see people get a pink slip than to do something that could save their jobs?

    This happens all the time and wrong every time.
    The Governor doesn't need to send pink slips to anyone. He is trying to blame others for his actions. It’s like a criminal saying that it is someone else’s fault when they kill. "If you had paid the ransom..." This is fraudulent. If the Governor issues pink slips it is because the Governor issues pink slips and blaming someone else is disingenuous.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    The Governor doesn't need to send pink slips to anyone. He is trying to blame others for his actions. It’s like a criminal saying that it is someone else’s fault when they kill. "If you had paid the ransom..." This is fraudulent. If the Governor issues pink slips it is because the Governor issues pink slips and blaming someone else is disingenuous.
    Can you share with us what you mean by the above. The state has to close a budget gap. Workers will either need to take a pay cut by paying more for their benefits or they keep the benefits and have fellow co-workers laid off.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
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    No good choices here for the unions or the politicians who work for them.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    First of all, there's no magic here. The layoff notices reflect a day 30 days in the future. So all can be fixed.

    But honestly? I think we're going to see some kind of compromise. There has to be...
    Maybe not. Walker may allow the Dem senators some sort of face saving gesture, but I doubt he will back down on the bill. When this guy was Milwaukee County executive, he gave back half of his salary every year for his first term and a smaller amount during his second term in order to gain the moral authority for deep cuts in the County budget. Right or wrong, I think he is fully committed to his program.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Can you share with us what you mean by the above. The state has to close a budget gap. Workers will either need to take a pay cut by paying more for their benefits or they keep the benefits and have fellow co-workers laid off.
    bingo. it's not like Walker created the massive budget gap, or the destructive union contracts.

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