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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Can you show me where ANY politician states the exact steps he/she is going to take in an election campaign? You're grasping at straws here.
    Not at all. I am attempting to deal with the reality of the situation.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    we live in a global economy, and yes, competition naturally exists between governments.
    So if every state cuts taxes on business to the bare bone and shifts the burden to working people, how do they all suddenly increase businesses coming to their state when nobody has an advantage to attract them anymore. This is a fools venture based on a lie that has never been proven to actually work.

    This from TaxFoundation.org on the pitfalls of cutting taxes to attract business

    State lawmakers are always mindful of their states' business tax climates but they are often tempted to lure business with lucrative tax incentives and subsidies instead of broad-based tax reform. This can be a dangerous proposition, as a case in Dell Computers and North Carolina illustrates. North Carolina agreed to $240 million worth of incentives to lure Dell to North Carolina. Many of the incentives came in form of tax credits from the state and local governments. Unfortunately Dell announced in 2009 that it would be closing the plant after only four years of operations. A recent USA Today article chronicled similar problems other states are having with companies who receive generous tax incentives.
    Businesses are akin to the ladies of the night who will only ply you with their favors as long as the money is rolling in their direction. As soon as a wealthier sucker comes along, the fun stops and they move on.

    http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/bp59.pdf

    According to the Tax Foundation, the top three states with the most favorable business climate and taxes are
    1- South Dakota
    2- Wyoming
    3- Alaska

    So where is the rush into all three of these states? New York is #49. I was there this summer and the city was booming big time a whole lot more than Minot, Casper and Juneau.

    Nevada is ranked #4 in favorable climate for business and taxes but is #51 in unemployment rate.

    So where is the beef?
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Please show where Walker promised to take the steps that he has taken in the last few weeks.
    Here's an interesting piece about Walker and his history of battling unions over the years. If voters were informed about Walker, his actions should not be a surprise.

    The Untold Story of Scott Walker's Longstanding History with Labor.

    In eight years as Milwaukee County Executive, Scott Walker learned a lot about how local governments work. While taking on a formidable Democrat machine in Milwaukee, Walker experienced some bumps and bruises, but he had some victories under his belt too. He learned that there was more to balancing a government budget than fiscal wisdom. Every budgetary choice made by Scott Walker involving cuts was bucked, in one way or another, by AFSCME.
    The year that best summarized Walker’s saga with local labor was probably 2010. As the 2008-2009 Great Recession hit the country, Milwaukee County's tax base felt the pinch. Walker called for an aggressive strategy of employee wage cuts and increased benefit contributions. AFSCME refused to accept those concessions provoking Walker to order layoffs and furloughs for hundreds of county workers. The exchange typified the continuing narrative that is Scott Walker.At no point during Walker’s eight year tenure did AFSCME recognize the financial impact the pension scandal had upon Milwaukee County. In short, Milwaukee County’s Pension Board - without so much as a cost study on pension benefits - passed ultra-lucrative pension buy-backs to hundreds of employees. Almost in a day, Milwaukee County government found herself mired in a $60 million hole without a viable exit strategy.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What a line of BS. All these governors are making all these cuts to make their states friendly to business. What are they going to all do - steal from each other? In Michigan Snyder is cutting business taxes by $1.8 billion dollars and increasing taxes by over $1. billion dollars on average people. Guess what Snyder did for a living before he became Governor in January? He was a businessman. Guess who the backbone of his political support is? Businessmen. Guess what occupation Snyder will go back to after he quits being governor. Businessman. And he gets to play on a whole new playing field that he was responsible to titling heavilly in his own direction and to his own advantage. Its disgusting.
    I can't speak to MI, but I do live in NE Illinois, and personally know of a business that has already moved to WI. The stated reason for their move was the increased taxes in IL and the expected decreased tax in WI.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The public unions have already ceded to Gov. Walker's wage demands, the only reason the senators left the is because the bill takes away most of their collective barganing rights. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON!!!!!!
    Who cares? Their are costs to the collective bargaining rights. If there weren't, the unions wouldn't be fighting so strongly to keep them. WI had a projected 3-4 billion dollar deficit. The state has two options, increase the taxes on everyone or reduce the spending. The governor of WI decided to reduce the spending. I personally think it's the better decision.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Quite frankly should this retreat by those politicians be tolerated? I don't.

    Before posting your response, consider this:

    Would you allow republicans to flee the senate whenever they disagree with a democratic vote?
    They'd have to leave the country and not just the state.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    According to the Tax Foundation, the top three states with the most favorable business climate and taxes are
    1- South Dakota
    2- Wyoming
    3- Alaska
    The unemployment rates in all three of those states are lower then the national average. There are more reasons for that then just the business enviroment, but that contributed.
    1- South Dakota
    4.6%
    2- Wyoming
    6.4%
    3- Alaska
    8.1%

    National Average:
    9.5%,
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not at all. I am attempting to deal with the reality of the situation.
    Riiight...if that were true then why not address the main point of my post instead of completely ignoring it?

    Walker campaigned on reducing debt. Getting rid of collective bargaining will reduce debt in the long run. True or false?

    Also if WI voters had wanted an step by step outline of how Walker was going to accomplish his promises then perhaps they should have demanded that he provide one before electing him into office. By not doing so they left it up to him. As such its thier fault for not getting all the information about the candidate that they elected.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    They'd have to leave the country and not just the state.
    AFAIK leaving DC before the Obamacare vote wouldn't have done any good anyways as there is no minimum requirement of attendence in order to pass a bill/law.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Also if WI voters had wanted an step by step outline of how Walker was going to accomplish his promises then perhaps they should have demanded that he provide one before electing him into office.
    I am sure that many did do just that.

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