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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    You are all aware that the unions have already stated that they would be willing to take the pay cut asked of them?

    At this point Walker is threatening these layoff based purely on the collective bargaining issue. Doesn't that sort of undercut any justification he might have for these actions?

    Biggest protests yet as pro-Walker side, larger union crowd meet peacefully - JSOnline
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What? I posted chopped liver?
    Maggie - did your material include campaign promises from Walker that he would take the steps he has to deny unions their legal rights to collective bargaining?

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The state legislators who voted to ratify destructive contracts should also get a pink slip.
    agreed as well. unfortunately it's not possible; only the people can fire them.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Maggie - did your material include campaign promises from Walker that he would take the steps he has to deny unions their legal rights to collective bargaining?
    that is, in fact, precisely what the union campaign material distributed about him prior to the election highlighted him doing.

    although in this case i would be willing to accept your agreement that unions often pursue political agenda's that are built upon false premises.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    There's no such thing as a collective right and thus no such thing as collective bargaining rights.
    Um, the Wisconsin statutes say otherwise:

    "Employees shall have the right . . . to bargain collectively." Wisc. Stat. 111.82 http://legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/Stat0111.pdf

    Obviously the government has the power to take that right away (unless it is also a constitutional right), but it does exist.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Gov. Walker has definitely jumped the shark, according to Rasmussen his disapproval rating has gone to 57%
    Obama has suffered far, far worse.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Bottom line, if the money isn't there then it isn't there. If there is no agreement to reduce salaries and benefits to bridge the gap, then the only thing left is lay offs... when, due to union contract clauses, layoffs will be forcefully determined only by seniority and not by merit.

    People can whine and stamp their feet all they want, but you cannot print money to pay your own personal bills and states cannot print money to pay theirs.

    Its just a matter of priority it appears to me. Tax breaks have replaced education as a priority.

    Pro-business proposals pop up at Wis. Capitol
    March 5, 2011

    MADISON — "Demonstrations over Gov. Scott Walker’s budget proposal and intent to repeal most public employee collective bargaining rights captured most of the public’s attention at the State Capitol this past week, but substantive business legislation moved forward.
    Here are some of the measures lawmakers considered:

    SB4/AB2-These identical proposals would increase the number of enterprise zones that the Department of Commerce can designate from 12 to 16.
    Enterprise zones are meant to promote job retention in an area and certain state income and franchise tax breaks are given to employers who create or help retain jobs in one of these zones.

    The legislation requires that from the four new zones, the DOC designate at least two zones in municipalities with populations less than 5,000 and at least two zones in cities with populations between 5,000 and 30,000.

    Senator Pam Galloway, R-Wausau, was the sponsor of the Senate version of the bill and said she is hopeful that the provisions relating to rural areas will spark interest from businesses in her district.

    “There is a company looking to set up a plant to manufacture solar panels, (the local) chamber of commerce has been working with them in Wausau but they’re still just in the talking phase,” said Galloway.

    The bill is on third reading in the Senate.

    AB 38/SB 21- Both legislative measures would allow the city of Brookfield in Waukesha County to create a tax incremental financing district, or TIF district, for a retail project.
    TIF districts give tax breaks to retailers or businesses relocating or developing on a particular parcel of land.
    The retail center in question is the upscale department store Von Maur. By creating this TIF district it will help the town fund public improvements related to the development of the store.

    According to a letter from the CFO of Von Maur to Brookfield’s town administrator Rick Czopp, the anticipated cost of construction will be $25 million to $30 million and will employ approximately 110 full time workers.

    The Senate has already passed the legislation and an Assembly committee is expected to take up the proposal March 10.

    SB12-This measure would allow retailers to offer discounts equal to the state and local sales tax.
    Under current law, if a local retailer offers a sales tax-free event it is considered a misdemeanor but this bill would eliminate this prohibition. Scott Kelly, the chief of staff for the sponsor, state Sen. Van Wanggaard, R-Racine, said this provision wasted state resources.

    “This is a victimless crime,” Kelly said. “It’s not enforced judicially right now but resources are used sending out threatening letters asking these businesses to cease and desist.”
    It was voted out of committee Tuesday with no opposition to the bill. Kelly said he is not sure when it’ll be called for a vote on the floor.
    Senator Lassa Proposals

    Sen. Julie Lassa, D-Stevens Point, is one of the missing 14 Democrats but that hasn’t stopped her from making new proposals.
    Last week she issued news releases that she will introduce bills aimed at creating partnerships between the state and regional economic development entities and increasing funds to WisCap (Wisconsin Small Company Advancement Program) and the Advanced Manufacturing Training Grants program.
    Another proposal addresses a discrepancy in the Wisconsin GI Bill for military veterans who end up losing state benefits if they take full use of federal tuition benefits.

    On Thursday she proposed another measure that would create the Wisconsin Growth Fund, which would “commit up to $100 million to eight to 10 venture capital funds over five years.”

    “Despite the current impasses at the State Capitol, my work representing my constituents continues,” Lassa said through press releases. “These bills will have a positive and immediate effect on helping Wisconsin workers find good new jobs.”
    Pro-business proposals pop up at Wis. Capitol*|*Statehousenewsonline.com
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quite frankly should this retreat by those politicians be tolerated? I don't.

    Before posting your response, consider this:

    Would you allow republicans to flee the senate whenever they disagree with a democratic vote?

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its just a matter of priority it appears to me. Tax breaks have replaced education as a priority.
    The tax breaks to attract business and build the tax base is a very small percentage of WI's budget. The funds necessary to compensate the public sector empoyees are a very large percentage of WI's budget. Even if you got rid of all of the proposed business tax breaks, WI would still be in a multi-billion dollar deficit.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Quite frankly should this retreat by those politicians be tolerated? I don't.

    Before posting your response, consider this:

    Would you allow republicans to flee the senate whenever they disagree with a democratic vote?
    i can't physically stop them, but i wouldn't support it. even during Obamacare never did i call for Republicans to flee Washington DC.

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