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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by zip98053 View Post
    The Governor doesn't need to send pink slips to anyone. He is trying to blame others for his actions. It’s like a criminal saying that it is someone else’s fault when they kill. "If you had paid the ransom..." This is fraudulent. If the Governor issues pink slips it is because the Governor issues pink slips and blaming someone else is disingenuous.
    He is falling in the polls and the polls say the people favor collective rights, so he really isn't listening to the people who elected him and he didn't run on removing collective bargaining rights. For that reason, I think he sort of just abusing his power now and doing what he thinks is best and right, not really what the people want. This will probably be his only term...

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    similar actions by Daniels in Indiana gave him exceedingly low favorability ratings for a while there, too. then he won handily in 2008, picking up something like 20% of the black vote.

    I wouldn't count Walker out quite yet. it depends on whether or not he succeeds here.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    bingo. it's not like Walker created the massive budget gap, or the destructive union contracts.
    The state legislators who voted to ratify destructive contracts should also get a pink slip.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Bottom line, if the money isn't there then it isn't there. If there is no agreement to reduce salaries and benefits to bridge the gap, then the only thing left is lay offs... when, due to union contract clauses, layoffs will be forcefully determined only by seniority and not by merit.

    People can whine and stamp their feet all they want, but you cannot print money to pay your own personal bills and states cannot print money to pay theirs.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The state legislators who voted to ratify destructive contracts should also get a pink slip.
    Most of them are hiding in Illinois.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Most of them are hiding in Illinois.
    Well... Chicago is a sanctuary city

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Well... Chicago is a sanctuary city
    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Most of them are hiding in Illinois.
    Between these two posts it's just pure gold.
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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    First of all, there's no magic here. The layoff notices reflect a day 30 days in the future. So all can be fixed.

    But honestly? I think we're going to see some kind of compromise. There has to be...
    Why does there have to be? The governor expects the legislature to be present to do their job. He can't do his job if all the Democrats are playing hookey because they want to disrupt the democratic process. They lost the damn election, time for them to face reality.

    The governor should follow through on his lay-off promise and cut those people loose regardless of when or if the Democrats finally return. If the Democrats do not return when those pink slips are issued, the governor should announce more lay offs. After all, if the legislature can't pass a budget, it's not legal for the state to spend money.

    Also, since there's no moral reason why the state should be party to union shops, euphemistically called "collective bargaining", there's no reason for the government to compromise on that issue. After all, there's only two ways to go, union shop or right to work, and there's no middle ground at all. Since it's moral to allow workers their freedom of choice to be in a union or not, then there's again no reason for Walker to seek an impossible compromise with people who have shown their disdain for the democratic process.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    Maybe not. Walker may allow the Dem senators some sort of face saving gesture, but I doubt he will back down on the bill. When this guy was Milwaukee County executive, he gave back half of his salary every year for his first term and a smaller amount during his second term in order to gain the moral authority for deep cuts in the County budget. Right or wrong, I think he is fully committed to his program.
    No.

    Walker should demand his legislator behave like grown ups, and that means they should crawl back to town and take whatever happens to them.

    Anyone remember the story of the little duck that ran away?

    Well, once there was a little duck who lived with other ducks on a boat, and every day the boat would tie up to shore and all the ducks would be allowed on the beach to play. In the evening, all the ducks would line up and waddle back onto the boat. The last duck in line would get a whack on the ass with a cane to give them all incentive to hurry up. Well, the little duck was going to be last and he didn't want to be whacked, so he went AWOL. Another duck got the whack. The little duck spent the night on the beach, frightened and jumpy, quivering at every strange sound, and all the sound were strange. The next day, the boat didn't show up, it went else where. The little duck had a miserable week fending for himself, and one day there it was! The boat. It was loading up the ducks. The little duck ran and ran, and he barel got in the line in time. He was whacked with the stick and that was that.

    The AWOL Democrats are in some serious need of a finding the boat and getting themselves whacked in the ass with the stick.

    The story never did say what the duck who got whacked that one night said to the little duck, though.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    That could easily be flipped to read: isn't it telling that Republicans would rather give people pink slips than compromise on collective bargaining rights?
    No, it couldn't be flipped that way.

    There's no such thing as a collective right and thus no such thing as collective bargaining rights.

    The individual does have the to choose to not be in a union, though. That's covered by the Freedom of association clause of the First Amendment.

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