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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Quite frankly should this retreat by those politicians be tolerated? I don't.

    Before posting your response, consider this:

    Would you allow republicans to flee the senate whenever they disagree with a democratic vote?
    Frankly, I don't think Democrats could stop Republicans if they were to flee to keep from voting on a bill.



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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post


    Its going to make a big dent in Education for the state of Wisconsin.


    Can they afford that? Already they have problems!



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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Assuming the politicians really plan on leasing or selling everything that the public now owns(infrastructure privatization), then the dismantling of the unions might be happening now in order to enable the smooth transition of these assets from the public to private sector.

    Unions probably represent some of the workers at the facilities mentioned in this portion of the bill.

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    16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state−owned heating, cooling,and power plants. (1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may
    contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is
    considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Frankly, I don't think Democrats could stop Republicans if they were to flee to keep from voting on a bill.
    they couldn't.


    but Republicans DON'T.

    In Illinois, for example, the Democratic Congress and Governor committed what the Republians thought was state suicide by hiking tax rates to combat falling revenues in the middle of a depression. Republicans argued and shouted and promised that the result would be nothing but pain....

    ....but they stayed and voted. that's called "representative government".

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    he could work to 'fix' what he percieves to be problems by sitting down at the bargaining table and negotiating....he is playing political games, and trying to union bust....
    well let's hope so.

    because the problem is public unions.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    He is trying to get control of an out-of-control system. He wants taxpayers to vote on any increase teachers get that's over and above the CPI. That's what this is about. The unions don't want the taxpayers to have a voice. What????

    Tell me. What is the problem with taxpayers having a voice in how their money's being spent?
    well..... you know.... it's all...... "transparent-y" and stuff.....


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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well let's hope so.

    because the problem is public unions.
    if he is really interested in balancing his budget, he will drop the union busting shenanigans and sit down and hammer out a deal....unions are not the problem here, but a convenient scapegoat for a republican governor looking to make a name for himself, and to reward his cronies/donors.

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if he is really interested in balancing his budget, he will drop the union busting shenanigans and sit down and hammer out a deal....unions are not the problem here, but a convenient scapegoat for a republican governor looking to make a name for himself, and to reward his cronies/donors.

    That type of BS argument could be used both ways there Randy....If demo's were serious about turning America back into a prosperous country, they would drop the tax and spend, Socialist shenanigans and realize that Unions in this country have been rejected by the people and get to the business of not bankrupting their surroundings.


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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That type of BS argument could be used both ways there Randy....If demo's were serious about turning America back into a prosperous country, they would drop the tax and spend, Socialist shenanigans and realize that Unions in this country have been rejected by the people and get to the business of not bankrupting their surroundings.


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    bs argument? hardly....he wants concessions, all he has to do is SIT DOWN AT THE DAMN TABLE....THE UNIONS HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH HIM......but no, he is tryiing to push forward full throttle with his anti union agenda, rewarding big business while screwing over joe and jane sixpack....sorry, if you are trying to balance a budget, then there should be no tax breaks...one group(his cronies/donors) shouldnt be rewarded with tax breaks while he seeks to fund those tax breaks on the backs of the unions. 'oh were broke!!! damn unions are driving the state into the poorhouse!! oh the humanity!! by the way, we are going to increase what you pay for benefits/insurance, and take away your rights in the name of balancing the budget...oh, before i forget my friends, here ya go guys, have some tax breaks!!...yeah, makes alot of sense...

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    Re: Wis. governor to Dems: Return or 1,500 workers will be axed

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    bs argument? hardly....he wants concessions, all he has to do is SIT DOWN AT THE DAMN TABLE....THE UNIONS HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY WILL WORK WITH HIM......but no, he is tryiing to push forward full throttle with his anti union agenda, rewarding big business while screwing over joe and jane sixpack....sorry, if you are trying to balance a budget, then there should be no tax breaks...one group(his cronies/donors) shouldnt be rewarded with tax breaks while he seeks to fund those tax breaks on the backs of the unions. 'oh were broke!!! damn unions are driving the state into the poorhouse!! oh the humanity!! by the way, we are going to increase what you pay for benefits/insurance, and take away your rights in the name of balancing the budget...oh, before i forget my friends, here ya go guys, have some tax breaks!!...yeah, makes alot of sense...
    See, this is why liberal union lackeys will never get it. I am "Joe Sixpack" Randel, and I loath the unions and what they do to not only our government by subverting the system corruptly, but in what they do to the businesses that provide the living I and others strive to give our families. They systematically break the back of whom ever they are organizing against through wanting ever more than the market will bear. Then when called on it, they, you, use disingenuous language pre supposing that you speak for me, and others that aren't union supporters as if you had more than a mere 12% in union membership.

    Tax breaks entice, and draw business to communities, and keep the cost of goods and services low so that people can afford them, and jobs are created. But I wouldn't expect the selfish, corrupt, childish liberal union member to understand anything that wasn't precluded with me, me, me.....


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