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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    And I pissed at the republican congress that went along with it......... but there is a fix... and I'm sure most liberals would get behind this, those companies that used nafta to move their plants to save on labor costs, just tax the hell out of their imports back into the states.
    Tariffs increase costs on the general public and are essentially another tax. Let the free market decide who's goods are better. If American workers provide better service than Canadian workers, they'll come here.
    Japanese cars are so much better than American ones for their cost. Without tariffs, costs for consumers would drastically go down.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    The results speak for themselves; we are on the road to recovery.
    yup

    housing is buckled, no shore up in sight

    revenues from property taxes are miniscule

    fannie and fred are looking at a half T

    the muni markets are necessarily downgraded

    public pensions at the state level alone are 2.5T under

    medicaid is unmanageable---NOW

    interest on the national debt is soon to approach 1T per

    oil is exploding, food prices are becoming an international crisis

    obamacare raises three quarters of a T in new "revenues," says cbo

    the gao last week reported a full half T of taxpayer money just VANISHED, "most of it in the last 2 years"

    the fed has obligated 2.7T of public trust in UNDIVERSIFIED junk

    and we produce a jobs report that for the first time in months manages to keep up with population growth---with a few thousand to spare!

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yup

    housing is buckled, no shore up in sight

    revenues from property taxes are miniscule

    fannie and fred are looking at a half T

    the muni markets are necessarily downgraded

    public pensions at the state level alone are 2.5T under

    medicaid is unmanageable---NOW

    interest on the national debt is soon to approach 1T per

    oil is exploding, food prices are becoming an international crisis

    obamacare raises three quarters of a T in new "revenues," says cbo

    the gao last week reported a full half T of taxpayer money just VANISHED, "most of it in the last 2 years"

    the fed has obligated 2.7T of public trust in UNDIVERSIFIED junk

    and we produce a jobs report that for the first time in months manages to keep up with population growth---with a few thousand to spare!

    results
    But Donc says we are on the road to recovery. Remember it is only money and what are trillions along with waste and missing taxdollars among friends?

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I was always taught that when someone was making a complete ass of themselves just get out of the way and let them. You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you and you know where. I have posted the actual unemployment and employment numbers from BLS.gov so many times and yet they still get ignored. Instead you prefer some sites that ignore the facts. The fact remains that 1 million discouraged workers were dropped from the unemployment roles in February because they gave up looking for work. What happens when you drop 1000000 from the roles divided by the labor force? The unemployment rate drops. Now tell me where those discouraged workers show up on any graph? do you think discouraged workers are employed or unemployed?

    What I find extremely interesting is how liberals continue to try and destroy Reagan over 20 years after he left office. Why do you have such a problem keeping more of what you earn? Why do you care so much how much someone else makes or pays in taxes? More importantly why do you buy everything the left tells you and never verify the rhetoric by getting it from non partisan sites?

    Obama did not inherit what he helped create unless you think we elect a King who bypasses the Congress on every issue. Democrats controlled Congress from 2007-2011 and the results are there for all to see but you and others choose to ignore them. The question is why?
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Pardon me, Truth Detector...but weren't you banned?
    Looks like just another subject you know nothing about. Who is Truth Detector? Maybe you ought to check with the Mods. I don't know who Truth Detector is but if that poster made a similar post to mine, great, I love it.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Tariffs increase costs on the general public and are essentially another tax. Let the free market decide who's goods are better. If American workers provide better service than Canadian workers, they'll come here.
    Japanese cars are so much better than American ones for their cost. Without tariffs, costs for consumers would drastically go down.
    I think you misunderstood .... I was talking of only those companies that have moved their factories out of the US to take advantage of cheaper labor..... . then turn right back around and import the same products back ...

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    The President has done a good job with the economic policies, the OP is evidence of that. I, for one, am grateful.
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    "In the technical sense--by the economic definition--President Obama is not a socialist," - 4-10-2010
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I think you misunderstood .... I was talking of only those companies that have moved their factories out of the US to take advantage of cheaper labor..... . then turn right back around and import the same products back ...
    No, I understood you perfectly fine. If the US workers who lost their jobs because of that have any talent or skill, they'll find another job. If someone's willing to do their job for less, why should the US govt put a tariff on those goods? They won't bring the jobs back and they drive prices up for consumers.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I think you misunderstood .... I was talking of only those companies that have moved their factories out of the US to take advantage of cheaper labor..... . then turn right back around and import the same products back ...
    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    No, I understood you perfectly fine. If the US workers who lost their jobs because of that have any talent or skill, they'll find another job. If someone's willing to do their job for less, why should the US govt put a tariff on those goods? They won't bring the jobs back and they drive prices up for consumers.
    I am afraid I am coming down on the side of Barbarian on this one my friend, and that can't be a good thing, can it? (Just kidding Barb)

    If a corporation move's jobs to a country where they take advantage of subpar wages and benefits, while leaving equally skilled workers here unemployed with few remaining manufacturing options for jobs, why should the corporations than be allowed to ship the very same products back into the US, pocketing the savings at the cost of US jobs?

    Perhaps I am missing something here that you can help me with.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am afraid I am coming down on the side of Barbarian on this one my friend, and that can't be a good thing, can it? (Just kidding Barb)

    If a corporation move's jobs to a country where he takes advantage of subpar wages and benefits, while leaving equally skilled workers here unemployed with few remaining manufacturing options for jobs, why should the corporations than be allowed to ship the very same products back into the US, pocketing the savings at the cost of US jobs?

    Perhaps I am missing something here that you can help me with.
    Nope, I'm a cold, heartless bastard in that respect.
    They should be allowed because they don't pocket the savings - at least not all of them. Costs go down for consumers all over the nation. Easiest way to see this is early to mid 1800's when we had huge tariff debates that were basically like tax debates now.

    If someone loses their job because someone else can do it for less, tough. They should get more education or find another way to make themselves be more employable - I have no sympathy for grunt labor. No one is born entitled to a job just because.
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