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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Didn't run away at all, all posts are irrelevant, In July 2003 the rate cuts were accelerated and the economy started generating jobs. Withholding tables are printed every year. What is the point of that entire "gotcha?"

    As for percentage change, does it really matter. Which matters more the larger increase in percentages or the larger increase in actual numbers. If the base is higher then the percentage change is going to be lower but the actual numbers are real.

    As was posted regarding job losses I was referring to employment numbers and if you even check the unemployment numbers they were worse than 2009 but you want to badly believe Sheik. Did you go to bls and confirm who was right? Employment is two million lower today than it was when Obama took office and 2.5 million less in the private sector. Keep buying what someone else tells you because you want badly to believe what they are saying. Sorry that I have created that type response here that you have to have a gotcha moment.

    As for Iraq, the 9/11 Commission report, the actual quotes of Democrats prior to Bush taking office and even after taking office refute your comments.

    As has been proven over and over again, I offer specific non partisan data that you ignore but continue to buy rhetoric from others that you want to believe.


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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by zeitgeist2012 View Post
    Thanks for the info.... However, I do think that area has enough unemployed to fill any job demands. I have a couple of kids who did that kind of work around here, and the pay and benefits were lousy.... High turn over rate, and the work tentative to say the least since people have to have jobs or income to buy things....

    The millions of real wealth generating private sector jobs that have been stripped out of this country have not returned, and until they do no amount of stats, or low paying computer sales jobs will stop the collapse of our Republic....


    March 7, 2011

    While Americans are focused on a possible government shutdown and heated budget standoffs in the states, the U.S. Senate is considering legislation that isn’t getting much attention, but is even more important because it threatens to destroy one of the greatest aspects of American exceptionalism – innovation.
    Did you know that Americans are responsible for roughly 90% of new inventions?
    While overregulation and taxation harm America’s ability to compete with other countries to attract and keep businesses that create jobs, our greatest stock in trade is the American spirit that fosters innovation, and the world’s strongest patent system to protect inventors’ rights.
    As Phyllis declared in a recent New York Times article, “This bill would be death to innovation in America,” and we must stop it from passing!
    S. 23, the so-called “Patent Reform Act of 2011” will destroy our patent system by setting up a system that disadvantages small inventors in favor of large corporations, makes it easier to infringe patents, easier to challenge patent rights in administrative proceedings and in the courts, and makes it more expensive for inventors to defend their patents.
    All this is being done in an effort to “harmonize” with the rest of the world. Why on earth would we want to harmonize with countries that don’t protect intellectual property rights? Other countries should be harmonizing with us to improve their systems.
    Killing innovation in America would not only kill jobs and economic growth, it would cut off the world’s largest supply of new ideas and inventions. Where would we be without American inventions from light bulbs to dialysis machines? Innovation vastly improves, and can even save our lives. We must fight to protect it!
    That’s why Eagle Forum and a long list of conservative leaders and organizations, including former Attorney General Edwin Meese, sent this letter to every Senator and Member of Congress urging them to oppose any so-called reform that would kill innovation.
    The Senate has been considering this bill throughout the week, and are likely to vote on final passage on Tuesday.
    We need you to call your Senators Monday and Tuesday to tell them we need to protect innovation, not litigation. Urge them to vote NO on S. 23, the Patent Reform Bill of 2011.

    Capital Switchboard 202-224-3121

    Take Action - Keep your calls coming! Stop the Death to Innovation Bill!

    Im still pissed at Clinton for signing NAFTA now Obama has reaffirmed it. Bonehead move imo.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Since I know how much you like posting all those gains in private sector employment under Obama. Let me know when they achieve the Bush levels prior to 2008

    Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
    Original Data Value

    Series Id: CES0500000001
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Super Sector: Total private
    Industry: Total private
    NAICS Code: -
    Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
    Years: 2001 to 2011

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 111634 111624 111555 111227 111146 110910 110737 110544 110276 109918 109575 109368
    2002 109214 109054 108989 108892 108814 108824 108732 108671 108659 108772 108758 108595
    2003 108640 108484 108286 108252 108274 108233 108231 108266 108421 108570 108611 108724
    2004 108882 108913 109213 109437 109747 109841 109883 109984 110135 110465 110493 110624
    2005 110718 110949 111095 111441 111583 111847 112122 112311 112392 112492 112796 112934
    2006 113247 113533 113795 113961 113965 114049 114200 114347 114432 114438 114628 114803
    2007 114993 115051 115251 115308 115419 115469 115486 115391 115396 115470 115568 115606
    2008 115610 115482 115395 115209 114969 114752 114487 114170 113736 113245 112458 111822
    2009 110981 110260 109473 108700 108374 107936 107649 107434 107221 106971 106937 106835
    2010 106793 106772 106916 107145 107193 107258 107351 107461 107570 107713 107841 108008
    2011 108076 108298


    I am sure that you will notice the 110.9 million private sector employees in January 2009 and the 108.3 million in February 2011. Looks to me like a 2.6 million decrease after spending over a trillion dollars to turn this around. How do you explain less private sector jobs today than when Obama took office?
    I also notice from your post that Mar and Apr have a jobs report of 108298.....crystal ball?
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by zeitgeist2012 View Post
    Dear Concerned American,

    It's a horrifying modern day genocide happening in our own backyards.

    Last year alone, Planned Parenthood was responsible for ending the lives of over 320,000 innocent babies.

    And all of it was subsidized by over $350 million in taxpayer funding.

    Using money from your pocket!

    I believe there is something deeply wrong with an organization that murders babies, and even more so when they are funded through the taxpayer dollars.

    Do you agree?

    If so, I hope you will sign the Defund Planned Parenthood petition I will link to in a moment.

    Thankfully, a rapidly growing number of Americans like you are fed up with their dollars funding the corrupt Planned Parenthood.

    Unfortunately, a stubborn Senate stands in the way.

    But momentum is building quickly.

    Just last week the Housed passed the Pence Amendment attached to the Continuing Resolution that extends government funding set to expire on March 4.

    The Pence Amendment removes all taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood and any other abortion provider.

    But it is up to you and I to make sure the Senate passes the Continuing Resolution with the Pence Amendment attached.

    This is going to be a tough fight.

    It's going to take every ounce of strength you and I have.

    You see, there are many in the Senate beholden to Planned Parenthood.

    Together they have concocted a strong barrier designed to eradicate any bills aimed at saving babies.

    But that's not going to stop me from standing firm in my belief that this legislation designed to save babies needs to be passed.

    Will you take a stand with me now against the taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood?

    If so, stand with Americans for Life by signing the Defund Planned Parenthood petition here.



    Your petition will direct the pleas of countless pro-life Americans like yourself towards a Senate that must decide to either stand for life or the murder of over 320,000 babies every year.

    They can put a stop to it by passing the Continuing Resolution with the Pence Amendment attached.

    You and I just have to see to it that they do.

    But it won't be easy.

    Planned Parenthood's would have you believe this is a war on women and their wellbeing.

    And believe me, they have their supporters riled up like never before.

    Daily emails from Planned Parenthood, NARAL, and Emily's List are being sent to paint pro-life Americans as villains.

    Sides have been drawn and an epic showdown in the Senate is underway.

    And if the side that is only asking for the life of a child to be respected is to win, you must act today.

    So will you?

    Will you sign the petition demanding the U.S. Senate defund Planned Parenthood?

    This fight will happen quickly as the Pence Amendment is attached to the Continuing Resolution that must be passed by March 4 or the government will be shut down.

    So I need you to decide now -- not tomorrow.

    If you will take a stand with Americans for Life, click here to sign the Defund Planned Parenthood petition right away.

    Americans for Life

    Why are you spamming a thread with abortions ryteric when we have a perfectly good abortion forum?
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post


    Keep rockin Conservative, It never gets old.
    Way to go, Jet, you are right, it never gets old that you fail to respond to what I posted. Doesn't stop you from accepting what another liberals posts however. I learned a long time ago to trust but verify. That is good advice for you. Now tell me exactly what I posted that was wrong?

    You want percentage this bout this.

    you have an expense that is $100 this year but $200 next year which is a 100% increase and $100 more in expense.

    Next year this ongoing expense starts at $200 and goes to $350 which is a 75% increase in expense.

    Now by your standards the 75% increase is an improvement over the 100% increase you originally had when the reality is you spent $150 on the same expense than the $100 previously spent. Which one is more meaningful to you, a reduction in the percentage or the increase in actual dollars spent?

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I also notice from your post that Mar and Apr have a jobs report of 108298.....crystal ball?
    Right, Donc, after 2011 there are two numbers, that would be January and February, not March and April. How does anyone take you seriously when you make comments like that? By your own standards then the last 6 numbers on each year didn't really happen since there is no month associated with them.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    How much have the richest 1% stolen since 1980?

    "If you make less than $114,000 a year (90% of us), you've been financially damaged by the flow of income to the richest 1% of Americans over the past 30 years.

    "Based on Internal Revenue Service figures, if middle- and upper-middle class families had maintained the same share of American productivity that they held in 1980, they would be making an average of $12,500 more per year."

    Since US GDP has increased five-fold since 1980 is it not reasonable to say upper-middle class families should have maintained their same share of the economic pie?

    "But if earnings since 1980 were based on this measure of productiveness, the richest 1% of Americans would be making $1 trillion less per year.

    "A trillion dollars a year. That's more than we spend on the entire military.

    "A trillion dollars a year. That's seven times more than the budget deficits of all 50 states combined...

    "Who are the people making up the richest 1%? Bankers, CEOs, upper management, university presidents, Congressmen...

    "Taxing them is not 'soaking the rich.'

    "The greatest redistribution of income in history has taken place over the last 30 years, and the victims are beginning to make a fuss about it."

    MAKE a FUSS!Jealous are we??

    Try focusing on my arguments and not on your perceptions of my economic class which is correct,

    Do you agree with the following unemployment figures from October 2010? Bill Quigley: The Class War at Home

    "One of every six workers, 26.8 million people, is unemployed or underemployed. This 'real' unemployment rate is over 17 per cent.

    "There are 14.8 million people designated as 'officially' unemployed by the government, a rate of 9.6 per cent. Unemployment is worse for African American workers of whom 16.1 per cent are unemployed.

    "Another 9.5 million people who are working only part-time while they are seeking full-time work but have had their hours cut back or are so far only able to find work part-time are not counted in the official unemployment numbers.

    "Also, an additional 2.5 million are reported unemployed but not counted because they are classified as discouraged workers in part because they have been out of work for more than 12 months. Source: US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics October 2010 report."

    Do you think unemployment is affected by the one trillion dollars per year currently going to our richest 1% of the population that would have been shared by middle and upper middle class families had their share of American productivity remained at 1980 levels?

    The Big Obscenity: A Trillion Dollars a Year to the Richest 1% | Common Dreams

    "There are 49 million people in the US who live in households which eat only because they receive food stamps, visit food pantries or soup kitchens for help.

    "Sixteen million are so poor they have skipped meals or foregone food at some point in the last year.


    Wealth, Income, and Power
    The Wealth Distribution

    In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2010).

    Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power

    Here's Michael Hudson's take on Obama's 1-2-3 tax punch:

    Michael Hudson: Obama's Sellout on Taxes

    "First, many former Democratic and independent voters will 'vote with their backsides' and simply stay home (or perhaps be tempted by a third-party candidate), enabling the Republicans to come in legislate the cuts in perpetuity in 2012 – an estimated $4 trillion to the rich over time.

    "Second, Obama’s Republican act (I hate to call it a compromise) 'frees' income for the wealthiest classes to send abroad, to economies not yet wrecked by neoliberals.

    "This paves the way for a foreign-exchange crisis.

    "Such crises traditionally fall in the autumn – and as the 2012 election draws near, it will be attributed to 'uncertainty' if voters do not throw the Democrats out.
    "So to 'save the dollar' the Republicans will propose to replace progressive income taxation with a uniform flat tax (the old Steve Forbes plan) falling on wage earners, not on wealth or on finance, insurance or real estate (FIRE sector) income.

    "A VAT will be added as an excise tax to push up consumer prices.

    "Third, the tax giveaway includes a $120 billion reduction in Social Security contributions by labor – reducing the FICA wage withholding from 6.2 per cent to 4.2 per cent.

    "Obama has ingeniously designed the plan to dovetail neatly into his Bowles-Simpson commission pressing to reduce Social Security as a step toward its ultimate privatization and subsequent wipeout grab by Wall Street."

    Do you think it's likely Americans in the middle and upper-middle economic classes are working at least as hard today as they were in 1980?

    "If you make less than $114,000 a year (90% of us), you've been financially damaged by the flow of income to the richest 1% of Americans over the past 30 years.

    "Based on Internal Revenue Service figures, if middle- and upper-middle class families had maintained the same share of American productivity that they held in 1980, they would be making an average of $12,500 more per year.

    I don't believe the "flow of income" towards the richest 1% of Americans since 1980 has as much to do with hard work as it has with campaign donations to Republicans AND Democrats.

    A tax bias of debt over equity investment seems to me a more likely explanation for most of that income flowing to the richest 1%.

    The Big Obscenity: A Trillion Dollars a Year to the Richest 1% | Common Dreams

    It's hard to miss how deliberate deceptions in the US media repeatedly prejudice Americans against their own best interests.

    "In Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (Pantheon, 1988) Noam Chomsky and I put forward a 'propaganda model' as a framework for analyzing and understanding how the mainstream U.S. media work and why they perform as they do.

    The Propaganda Model Revisited, by Edward S. Herman

    "We had long been impressed with the regularity with which the media operate within restricted assumptions, depend heavily and uncritically on elite information sources, and participate in propaganda campaigns helpful to elite interests.

    " In trying to explain why they do this we looked for structural factors as the only possible root of systematic behavior and performance patterns."

    Does the propaganda work without profit?

    "What is the propaganda model and how does it work?

    "The crucial structural factors derive from the fact that the dominant media are firmly imbedded in the market system.

    "They are profit-seeking businesses, owned by very wealthy people (or other companies); they are funded largely by advertisers who are also profit-seeking entities, and who want their ads to appear in a supportive selling environment.

    "The media are also dependent on government and major business firms as information sources, and both efficiency and political considerations, and frequently overlapping interests, cause a certain degree of solidarity to prevail among the government, major media, and other corporate businesses.

    "Government and large non-media business firms are also best positioned (and sufficiently wealthy) to be able to pressure the media with threats of withdrawal of advertising or TV licenses, libel suits, and other direct and indirect modes of attack.

    "The media are also constrained by the dominant ideology, which heavily featured anticommunism before and during the Cold War era, and was mobilized often to prevent the media from criticizing attacks on small states labeled communist."

    Does the propaganda work without profit?

    "What is the propaganda model and how does it work?

    "The crucial structural factors derive from the fact that the dominant media are firmly imbedded in the market system.

    "They are profit-seeking businesses, owned by very wealthy people (or other companies); they are funded largely by advertisers who are also profit-seeking entities, and who want their ads to appear in a supportive selling environment.

    "The media are also dependent on government and major business firms as information sources, and both efficiency and political considerations, and frequently overlapping interests, cause a certain degree of solidarity to prevail among the government, major media, and other corporate businesses.

    "Government and large non-media business firms are also best positioned (and sufficiently wealthy) to be able to pressure the media with threats of withdrawal of advertising or TV licenses, libel suits, and other direct and indirect modes of attack.

    "The media are also constrained by the dominant ideology, which heavily featured anticommunism before and during the Cold War era, and was mobilized often to prevent the media from criticizing attacks on small states labeled communist."

    "As this chart shows, the US is cranking out multimillionaires at a record pace with super-rich (more than $10M) households doubling in the past decade.

    "What’s scary is that doubling the amount of people who have more than $10M per household (from 300K to 600K) means there’s $3,000,000,000,000 less available for the other 98% of the of the households as MONEY IS A COMMODITY and can only be possessed by one person OR another."

    The Dooh Nibor Economy (that’s “Robin Hood” backwards!) | Phil

    Do you think voting for a Republican or a Democrat will Change anything?

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    Yes, I think so. I truely do.

    Ok, so what is so funny about it? You think it's a big joke that Obama didn't like the numbers coming out of the CBO so he calls the head of the CBO into the Oval Office and surrounds him 10 to 1 with thugs.....This is what we have in the WH now, and lying gangster wanna be.


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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by zeitgeist2012 View Post
    How much have the richest 1% stolen since 1980?

    "If you make less than $114,000 a year (90% of us), you've been financially damaged by the flow of income to the richest 1% of Americans over the past 30 years.

    "Based on Internal Revenue Service figures, if middle- and upper-middle class families had maintained the same share of American productivity that they held in 1980, they would be making an average of $12,500 more per year."

    Since US GDP has increased five-fold since 1980 is it not reasonable to say upper-middle class families should have maintained their same share of the economic pie?

    "But if earnings since 1980 were based on this measure of productiveness, the richest 1% of Americans would be making $1 trillion less per year.

    "A trillion dollars a year. That's more than we spend on the entire military.

    "A trillion dollars a year. That's seven times more than the budget deficits of all 50 states combined...

    "Who are the people making up the richest 1%? Bankers, CEOs, upper management, university presidents, Congressmen...

    "Taxing them is not 'soaking the rich.'

    "The greatest redistribution of income in history has taken place over the last 30 years, and the victims are beginning to make a fuss about it."

    MAKE a FUSS!Jealous are we??

    Try focusing on my arguments and not on your perceptions of my economic class which is correct,

    Do you agree with the following unemployment figures from October 2010? Bill Quigley: The Class War at Home

    "One of every six workers, 26.8 million people, is unemployed or underemployed. This 'real' unemployment rate is over 17 per cent.

    "There are 14.8 million people designated as 'officially' unemployed by the government, a rate of 9.6 per cent. Unemployment is worse for African American workers of whom 16.1 per cent are unemployed.

    "Another 9.5 million people who are working only part-time while they are seeking full-time work but have had their hours cut back or are so far only able to find work part-time are not counted in the official unemployment numbers.

    "Also, an additional 2.5 million are reported unemployed but not counted because they are classified as discouraged workers in part because they have been out of work for more than 12 months. Source: US Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics October 2010 report."

    Do you think unemployment is affected by the one trillion dollars per year currently going to our richest 1% of the population that would have been shared by middle and upper middle class families had their share of American productivity remained at 1980 levels?

    The Big Obscenity: A Trillion Dollars a Year to the Richest 1% | Common Dreams

    "There are 49 million people in the US who live in households which eat only because they receive food stamps, visit food pantries or soup kitchens for help.

    "Sixteen million are so poor they have skipped meals or foregone food at some point in the last year.


    Wealth, Income, and Power
    The Wealth Distribution

    In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2007, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 34.6% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 50.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 85%, leaving only 15% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2010).

    Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power

    Here's Michael Hudson's take on Obama's 1-2-3 tax punch:

    Michael Hudson: Obama's Sellout on Taxes

    "First, many former Democratic and independent voters will 'vote with their backsides' and simply stay home (or perhaps be tempted by a third-party candidate), enabling the Republicans to come in legislate the cuts in perpetuity in 2012 – an estimated $4 trillion to the rich over time.

    "Second, Obama’s Republican act (I hate to call it a compromise) 'frees' income for the wealthiest classes to send abroad, to economies not yet wrecked by neoliberals.

    "This paves the way for a foreign-exchange crisis.

    "Such crises traditionally fall in the autumn – and as the 2012 election draws near, it will be attributed to 'uncertainty' if voters do not throw the Democrats out.
    "So to 'save the dollar' the Republicans will propose to replace progressive income taxation with a uniform flat tax (the old Steve Forbes plan) falling on wage earners, not on wealth or on finance, insurance or real estate (FIRE sector) income.

    "A VAT will be added as an excise tax to push up consumer prices.

    "Third, the tax giveaway includes a $120 billion reduction in Social Security contributions by labor – reducing the FICA wage withholding from 6.2 per cent to 4.2 per cent.

    "Obama has ingeniously designed the plan to dovetail neatly into his Bowles-Simpson commission pressing to reduce Social Security as a step toward its ultimate privatization and subsequent wipeout grab by Wall Street."

    Do you think it's likely Americans in the middle and upper-middle economic classes are working at least as hard today as they were in 1980?

    "If you make less than $114,000 a year (90% of us), you've been financially damaged by the flow of income to the richest 1% of Americans over the past 30 years.

    "Based on Internal Revenue Service figures, if middle- and upper-middle class families had maintained the same share of American productivity that they held in 1980, they would be making an average of $12,500 more per year.

    I don't believe the "flow of income" towards the richest 1% of Americans since 1980 has as much to do with hard work as it has with campaign donations to Republicans AND Democrats.

    A tax bias of debt over equity investment seems to me a more likely explanation for most of that income flowing to the richest 1%.

    The Big Obscenity: A Trillion Dollars a Year to the Richest 1% | Common Dreams

    It's hard to miss how deliberate deceptions in the US media repeatedly prejudice Americans against their own best interests.

    "In Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (Pantheon, 1988) Noam Chomsky and I put forward a 'propaganda model' as a framework for analyzing and understanding how the mainstream U.S. media work and why they perform as they do.

    The Propaganda Model Revisited, by Edward S. Herman

    "We had long been impressed with the regularity with which the media operate within restricted assumptions, depend heavily and uncritically on elite information sources, and participate in propaganda campaigns helpful to elite interests.

    " In trying to explain why they do this we looked for structural factors as the only possible root of systematic behavior and performance patterns."

    Does the propaganda work without profit?

    "What is the propaganda model and how does it work?

    "The crucial structural factors derive from the fact that the dominant media are firmly imbedded in the market system.

    "They are profit-seeking businesses, owned by very wealthy people (or other companies); they are funded largely by advertisers who are also profit-seeking entities, and who want their ads to appear in a supportive selling environment.

    "The media are also dependent on government and major business firms as information sources, and both efficiency and political considerations, and frequently overlapping interests, cause a certain degree of solidarity to prevail among the government, major media, and other corporate businesses.

    "Government and large non-media business firms are also best positioned (and sufficiently wealthy) to be able to pressure the media with threats of withdrawal of advertising or TV licenses, libel suits, and other direct and indirect modes of attack.

    "The media are also constrained by the dominant ideology, which heavily featured anticommunism before and during the Cold War era, and was mobilized often to prevent the media from criticizing attacks on small states labeled communist."

    Does the propaganda work without profit?

    "What is the propaganda model and how does it work?

    "The crucial structural factors derive from the fact that the dominant media are firmly imbedded in the market system.

    "They are profit-seeking businesses, owned by very wealthy people (or other companies); they are funded largely by advertisers who are also profit-seeking entities, and who want their ads to appear in a supportive selling environment.

    "The media are also dependent on government and major business firms as information sources, and both efficiency and political considerations, and frequently overlapping interests, cause a certain degree of solidarity to prevail among the government, major media, and other corporate businesses.

    "Government and large non-media business firms are also best positioned (and sufficiently wealthy) to be able to pressure the media with threats of withdrawal of advertising or TV licenses, libel suits, and other direct and indirect modes of attack.

    "The media are also constrained by the dominant ideology, which heavily featured anticommunism before and during the Cold War era, and was mobilized often to prevent the media from criticizing attacks on small states labeled communist."

    "As this chart shows, the US is cranking out multimillionaires at a record pace with super-rich (more than $10M) households doubling in the past decade.

    "What’s scary is that doubling the amount of people who have more than $10M per household (from 300K to 600K) means there’s $3,000,000,000,000 less available for the other 98% of the of the households as MONEY IS A COMMODITY and can only be possessed by one person OR another."

    The Dooh Nibor Economy (that’s “Robin Hood” backwards!) | Phil

    Do you think voting for a Republican or a Democrat will Change anything?
    Seek a publisher for this book. Do you really believe something this large is going to be read or that it will make any difference? Who would you have us vote for? What you fail to understand is that the math just doesn't add up for a third party candidate. Love your passion but not your logic and common sense.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

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    Right, Donc, after 2011 there are two numbers, that would be January and February, not March and April. How does anyone take you seriously when you make comments like that? By your own standards then the last 6 numbers on each year didn't really happen since there is no month associated with them.
    It’s just your habit of slapping a bunch of random numbers up. If anyone goes to the bls site to confirm your bunch of random numbers and your random numbers turn out to be the wrong numbers (which has happened quite lately) you move the goal post and slap up another bunch of random numbers. Don’t you ever tire of being the laughing stock of DP?
    I am a man of fixed and unbending principles, the first of which is to remain flexible at all times.

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