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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You should.

    Unless you think that we shouldn't cut wasteful spending, we are moving towards another great depression, you are for corporate welfare and for trillions in tax cuts. Not sure about the military portion. That said, corporate welfare is relatively small portion of our budget. Without entitlement reform, any "fiscal conservativism" is a lie.

    How big are the cuts?
    Love how liberals always focus on the amount of money going to the Federal govt. not how that money is spent. Corporate welfare? Yep, corporations making money and keeping more of what they earn is just money put into a pile and burned, right? Don't know what you do for a living but if you truly care so much about the revenue going to the govt. send them more of your check.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Only if you pay no attention to the estimated true unemployment rate of 17%. The number of people still out of work who are no long counted is not going doen enough to make a difference.

    An Obama opponent willing to tell the facts amd truth about tha failure Obama has been and the waste of stimulus money, The opponent also needs to point out how he has only give lip service to the Border protection, and and been on a couple apology tours running down the Nation at every turn and he suddenly looks like what he is. A total failure and a lying bastard who will say whatever he has to to votes, and when he caught in a lie he simply tells an even bigger one to change the subject.

    Liberals always fall for his BS no matter what the facts show to be true.
    Pay attention before to the actual figures before you resort to false statements. The U-6 unemployment rate fell to 15.9%.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Pay attention before making false statements. The U-6 unemployment rate fell to 15.9%.

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    And it only cost over a trillion dollars to get the unemployment to this level. Some continue to believe the govt. can spend its way to OUR prosperity. Since liberals believe tax cuts are an expense, then why not expense that trillion dollars in tax cuts to businesses and the American people? Millions of unemployed Americans going back to work will return to paying taxes at various levels.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Do you support subsidizing retirement health care costs for AT&T?
    Prior to Obama's health care passage, those particular health care benefits were given by AT&T, but subsidized by the Federal Government.That's why their cost is expected to rise, because they are no longer allowed to push that cost onto all tax payers.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And it only cost over a trillion dollars to get the unemployment to this level. Some continue to believe the govt. can spend its way to OUR prosperity. Since liberals believe tax cuts are an expense, then why not expense that trillion dollars in tax cuts to businesses and the American people? Millions of unemployed Americans going back to work will return to paying taxes at various levels.
    Again, you cannot spend your way to prosperity, but you can stave off a greater depression.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And it only cost over a trillion dollars to get the unemployment to this level. Some continue to believe the govt. can spend its way to OUR prosperity. Since liberals believe tax cuts are an expense, then why not expense that trillion dollars in tax cuts to businesses and the American people? Millions of unemployed Americans going back to work will return to paying taxes at various levels.
    Tax cuts this, tax cuts that.

    Cut taxes and everything will be better!

    You know what I think, stimilus or no stimilus, tax cuts or no tax cuts... I think the system is broken, I don't think it'll ever "Be the way it was".

    We can all go back to high paying jobs and it'll all be cool again... the world has changed. America simply is not as competitive anymore, not to mention the utter failure of the Legislative and Executive branches of Government for the last 20 years to regulate effectively the financial industry that caused this catastrophe that we find ourselves in.

    I think you're clinging to the past, I don't think it matters what we do, we need to figure out something new or we'll just build a new bubble to burst all over again.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Prior to Obama's health care passage, those particular health care benefits were given by AT&T, but subsidized by the Federal Government.That's why their cost is expected to rise, because they are no longer allowed to push that cost onto all tax payers.
    How does AT&T "push the costs" on to taxpayers? I wasn't aware that a company keeping more of what they earn is an expense to the Federal Govt. I haven't found on the Budget of the United States a line item in the expense category for individual corporate deductions. The way to cut the deficit is to cut the unnecessary spending and not supplement it by taking more revenue out of the private sector.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Tax cuts this, tax cuts that.

    Cut taxes and everything will be better!

    You know what I think, stimilus or no stimilus, tax cuts or no tax cuts... I think the system is broken, I don't think it'll ever "Be the way it was".

    We can all go back to high paying jobs and it'll all be cool again... the world has changed. America simply is not as competitive anymore, not to mention the utter failure of the Legislative and Executive branches of Government for the last 20 years to regulate effectively the financial industry that caused this catastrophe that we find ourselves in.

    I think you're clinging to the past, I don't think it matters what we do, we need to figure out something new or we'll just build a new bubble to burst all over again.
    Yes, everything will be better for the individual and the companies as they need less of that so called liberal help that the govt. supposedly provides. Do you think the way to go back to high paying jobs is through govt. intervention and higher tax rates? What exactly do you think businesses do with the extra money they get to keep as a results of lower taxes?

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Again, you cannot spend your way to prosperity, but you can stave off a greater depression.
    People keeping more of their own money don't face a depression. How did Obama stave off a greater depression?

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does AT&T "push the costs" on to taxpayers? I wasn't aware that a company keeping more of what they earn is an expense to the Federal Govt. I haven't found on the Budget of the United States a line item in the expense category for individual corporate deductions. The way to cut the deficit is to cut the unnecessary spending and not supplement it by taking more revenue out of the private sector.
    Who should pay this particular benefit, the government or AT&T?

    Secondly, retirement health care expenses are a liability, not revenue.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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