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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I simply do not believe the numbers you just used. In the tax cut deal, payroll taxes were cut by 2%. So anyone making over $5k annually would benefit by $100. I don't know your tax bracket but most Americans make more than $5K, which is about half my property tax.
    You are welcome to submit your documentation to refute the Congressional Record if you can.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    From my post to Catawba: you do realize that 47% of the income earners don't pay ANY Federal Income Taxes?
    As donc has shown, they do pay a large percentage already on taxes, but please explain how you would suggest adding additional taxes to a family of 4, trying to live on $22,000 a year?

    And then square that with the $91,000 tax cut on average that each of those making over 1 million dollars have been enjoying for years.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I simply do not believe the numbers you just used. In the tax cut deal, payroll taxes were cut by 2%. So anyone making over $5k annually would benefit by $100. I don't know your tax bracket but most Americans make more than $5K, which is about half my property tax.
    I think you two are talking about two seperate tax cut bills.

    Last I recall, the Bush 2003 bill, which Catawba's link cites (See the date, it can't be the new bill) did not cut payroll taxes. Obama's compromise dropped the payroll 2%.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are welcome to submit your documentation to refute the Congressional Record if you can.
    Hold up. You are talking about the Bush 2003 tax cuts. Washnut is talking about the recent tax cut deal. 2003 bill vs 2010 bill.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Hold up. You are talking about the Bush 2003 tax cuts. Washnut is talking about the recent tax cut deal. 2003 bill vs 2010 bill.
    Yes, I just saw that. But we have been discussing the totals of money provided through unfunded tax breaks through history, and I posted data for the Bush tax cuts.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What does that have to do with the post saying that the IRS says that 47% of all income earners DON'T PAY ANY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES? What does percentage of income have to do with it since most of the taxes you list are use taxes not income taxes? Do people who don't pay any Federal Income taxes use any of the services that the rest of the taxpayers provide?
    Considering how those people still pay FICA and Social Security and Medicare are the 800 lb gorillas of the budget, your argument is moot. Income tax and payroll taxes are roughly the same amount.

    Federal Government's Sources of Revenues and Taxes

    And before you pull out your "liberal source" bull**** argument, Heritage is about as Conservatively biased as you can get short of WND.
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Do you or anyone really believe the stuff in the post above?
    You should.

    Unless you think that we shouldn't cut wasteful spending, we are moving towards another great depression, you are for corporate welfare and for trillions in tax cuts. Not sure about the military portion. That said, corporate welfare is relatively small portion of our budget. Without entitlement reform, any "fiscal conservativism" is a lie.

    Not sure what statistics you are looking at when saying that the wealthy get trillions of dollars of tax breaks.
    How big are the cuts?
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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added - Yahoo! News

    If this keeps up. Like him or not, Obama will be unbeatable in 2012.
    Only if you pay no attention to the estimated true unemployment rate of 17%. The number of people still out of work who are no long counted is not going doen enough to make a difference.

    An Obama opponent willing to tell the facts amd truth about tha failure Obama has been and the waste of stimulus money, The opponent also needs to point out how he has only give lip service to the Border protection, and and been on a couple apology tours running down the Nation at every turn and he suddenly looks like what he is. A total failure and a lying bastard who will say whatever he has to to votes, and when he caught in a lie he simply tells an even bigger one to change the subject.

    Liberals always fall for his BS no matter what the facts show to be true.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As donc has shown, they do pay a large percentage already on taxes, but please explain how you would suggest adding additional taxes to a family of 4, trying to live on $22,000 a year?

    And then square that with the $91,000 tax cut on average that each of those making over 1 million dollars have been enjoying for years.
    What do local and state taxes have to do with the cuts in Federal income Taxes? Trying to weasil out of the absurd comments you made? The Bush tax cuts were for Income taxes and that is what you claimed was in the trillions for the rich. Try to stay on track instead of diverting. You are wrong and just cannot admit it.

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    Re: Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Considering how those people still pay FICA and Social Security and Medicare are the 800 lb gorillas of the budget, your argument is moot. Income tax and payroll taxes are roughly the same amount.

    Federal Government's Sources of Revenues and Taxes

    And before you pull out your "liberal source" bull**** argument, Heritage is about as Conservatively biased as you can get short of WND.
    FICA IS Social Security tax or didn't you know? And that is like putting money into a 401K. Is investing in retirement a tax? You just cannot help yourself can you? Diverting not only from the thread topic but also from the income tax issue that 47% don't pay?

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