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Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

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Please stop. How is your hyperpartisanship any better than what you blaming the right for? Step back, take a breath, realize the world isn't so black and white and try to readjust your views on life. That's not to say you can't have leftist views, but realize when you blatantly tout hyper liberalism that nobody except those on the fringe will take you seriously.

On to the topic at hand. It's fairly obvious that MSM is a joke, on both sides. I find all the bickering about media bias fairly ridiculous as none seem to really deliver a solid, consistent news stream. News today comes in bites and it's obvious that this is how the majority of our country gets the news. Why read an article in the Times when you can just have a widget that will give the cliff notes in 5 words? I agree it's quite humorous that China is the country making this accusation, but will agree with others and say it makes it no less true.
 
Still waiting ...:roll:

Do they allow news? :)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest_calls The Foreign Correspondents' Club of China said journalists from 15 news organizations trying to report near the shopping street "experienced serious interference." Journalists from five news organizations reported having their equipment confiscated or reporting material destroyed, the FCCC said in a statement Monday.
Bloomberg News said one of its journalists was assaulted by five men who appeared to be plainclothes security officers and had a video camera confiscated. A BBC journalist wrote that he and a colleague were roughed up while being thrown into a van by men in plain clothes.
 
It's fairly obvious that MSM is a joke, on both sides. I find all the bickering about media bias fairly ridiculous as none seem to really deliver a solid, consistent news stream. News today comes in bites and it's obvious that this is how the majority of our country gets the news. Why read an article in the Times when you can just have a widget that will give the cliff notes in 5 words? I agree it's quite humorous that China is the country making this accusation, but will agree with others and say it makes it no less true.

Most Americans read Drudge first, or Huffington. Two seriously flawed tabloid sites. Why? Because the lamestream media don't do their jobs and mimick either Fox or TMZ.
The lead story on 2 of the 3 local news outlets yesterday at 5 o'clock was Charlie Sheen. So we have us a serious problem with news censorship today in the US.

Do they allow news? :)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest_calls The Foreign Correspondents' Club of China said journalists from 15 news organizations trying to report near the shopping street "experienced serious interference." Journalists from five news organizations reported having their equipment confiscated or reporting material destroyed, the FCCC said in a statement Monday.
Bloomberg News said one of its journalists was assaulted by five men who appeared to be plainclothes security officers and had a video camera confiscated. A BBC journalist wrote that he and a colleague were roughed up while being thrown into a van by men in plain clothes.

This is the incident that caused China to release the comments they made about Western press, quoted in my first thread starting post. China claims the harrassment was a fabrication and the West, always ready to antagonize its top compitetor/ rival
always harps on "the commies" for Americas own worst offenses. Hence, another scapegoat for the Right Wing. :peace

What was Iraq and the war on terror, but a huge human rights abuses and death squads? What is the US policy on detention and torture? Why does the US media routine censor these stories in favor of Lindsay Lohan?

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Most Americans read Drudge first, or Huffington. Two seriously flawed tabloid sites. Why? Because the lamestream media don't do their jobs and mimick either Fox or TMZ.
The lead story on 2 of the 3 local news outlets yesterday at 5 o'clock was Charlie Sheen. So we have us a serious problem with news censorship today in the US.



This is the incident that caused China to release the comments they made about Western press, quoted in my first thread starting post. China claims the harrassment was a fabrication and the West, always ready to antagonize its top compitetor/ rival
always harps on "the commies" for Americas own worst offenses. Hence, another scapegoat for the Right Wing. :peace

What was Iraq and the war on terror, but a huge human rights abuses and death squads? What is the US policy on detention and torture? Why does the US media routine censor these stories in favor of Lindsay Lohan?

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Kane, the Christian Science Monitor is one of the best papers out there. I find it interesting that you find bias in that highly-respected paper, all the while giving the Chinese press a pass. Really?
 
Chinese first: Tiananmen Square mentioned in official newspaper - CSMonitor.com

I did a search on Tiennamen square because I figured that would be an easy one :shrug:

Thanks.

My take of the article: Coming from the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, it may be accurate but i disagree with their bias against China.Google and Yahoo, American companies, were both caught turning in Chinese dissidents who did nothing except write about their political beliefs. So, America is guilty of many of the same crimes it accuses China of. Namely unlawful detention and torture. It is worth noting in a thread about press freedom, that the Christian Science Monitor went bankrupt years ago and was purchased by people connected to US govmnnt agencies.It is a US govmnt outlet like Voice of America or Radio Free Europe.

Kane, the Christian Science Monitor is one of the best papers out there. I find it interesting that you find bias in that highly-respected paper, all the while giving the Chinese press a pass. Really?

1. the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, the flottilla of doom (that is a serious flaw, censorship and dishonesty, who died left them above the fray?)

2. the CSM has the most mildest critiques of the most heinous war crimes and gestapo tactics, and are tied up in the govenrment somehow, there is fine line between NGO's, the intel agencies, the military and embedded reporting!

3. Scientotlogy is a cult.

4. Scientotlogy are dirty tricksters, possibly CIA

5. A conflict of interest means you should resign. (i.e)government employees in the TV media, North, Huckabee etc. and plagarists who get caught. Thats called, spell it with me now ... ETHICS.

6. Who needs em?
 
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I'd be willing to bet that there are western propaganda incursions into China that make up plenty of news and facts. Why is that surprising?
 
Shouldn't this be down in the humor section? Chinese media accusing others of fabricating news? LOL. That'd be like Cold War Era "Pravda" chastising the US Media.

Can't a thief accuse another thief of thieving and be right?

Journalists get away with a lot. Some journalists engage in outright blackmail. But one hears only of "suppression of the free press". If a jounralist gets hurt or something, they will all try to defend their own. A journalist gets sexually assaulted in Egypt - big story, but rape occurs every day to women every where. Not to mention the hypocrisy in the jounanlists' rank regarding the westerners and the "native" journalists. A lot of those working with the western jounralists to get their story to the "western media" get hurt or killed.

Journalists do a neccessary job and those in the West are more active and have more freedom than others, a lot of them probably do their jobs out of idealistic reasons too, but it doesn't mean that there are no fault within their rank worthy of criticism.
 
How, do they have news with a spectrum of political alignments that can be swayed?

I don't know what you're talking about.

I know, for example, that Miami exiles commonly infiltrate Cuban airwaves with propaganda, a lot of which is just straight up lies. Same goes for the DPRK and the Eastern Bloc during the cold war. It's a typical tactic.
 
Then you're talking about pirate radio. I doubt they have anything like the news in the US which can be swayed by interests. Or so I believe.
 
Then you're talking about pirate radio. I doubt they have anything like the news in the US which can be swayed by interests. Or so I believe.

I don't know what you mean by "the news" being "swayed by interests".

Do you mean the people being swayed by news outlets as a propaganda tool?
 
Damn skippy. Liberals have been saying this since the 2000 election. Back in the nineties, CNN used to be so great. When they investigated "Iraq-Gate" under Bush Sr.,
(how the U.S. sold Saddam weapons) they had new updates every hour, not simply repeating the same clips all day. Now all they do is spin away. Don't look at the truth hidden behind my back, look at this more palatable version of history/reality sanitized and censored for your viewing pleasure. Or, in Fox News case, video from another event all together, file footage from wherever we choose to pull it from. :roll:

"BEIJING (AFP) - An official Chinese newspaper has accused foreign journalists in the country of fabricating news in the latest sign of official nerves over an online campaign for anti-government rallies."

Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media - The West Australian

Looks like FOX News is not limited to viewers in the United States. :mrgreen:
 
Thanks.

My take of the article: Coming from the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, it may be accurate but i disagree with their bias against China.
Google and Yahoo, American companies, were both caught turning in Chinese dissidents who did nothing except write about their political beliefs. So, America is guilty of many of the same crimes it accuses China of. Namely unlawful detention and torture. It is worth noting in a thread about press freedom, that the Christian Science Monitor went bankrupt years ago and was purchased by people connected to US govmnnt agencies.It is a US govmnt outlet like Voice of America or Radio Free Europe.

What does CSM's stance on Israel have to do with China? I lived in China in the 1990s and I still occasionally monitor Chinese-language news reports froming out of China. They regularly censor and alter the news. One recent gem was in the Chinese-language press when they pointed out that the protests in Egypt that went on for weeks was the inevitable result of democracy, when in fact democracy does not (and still does not) exist in Egypt. They also told people for more than a week that the U.S. refused to apologize for the accidental bombing of their embassy in 1999 in Belgrade when, in fact, the U.S. made a pretty quick apology. I also remember a lot of fictitious reports coming from Chinese-language media in the aftermath of the Chinese forced downing of the U.S. recon plane in the South China Sea in 2001.

China's news media REGULARLY fabricates news and censors news and it is far more pervasive in its Chinese-language press then in the English language. They get away with such hypocrisy because the number of foreigners who read Chinese are very few.
 
This is the incident that caused China to release the comments they made about Western press, quoted in my first thread starting post. China claims the harrassment was a fabrication and the West, always ready to antagonize its top compitetor/ rival
always harps on "the commies" for Americas own worst offenses. Hence, another scapegoat for the Right Wing. :peace

But the harassment was NOT a fabrication of the Western media. I have seen VIDEO footage of the harassment, some of it physical in nature.
 
The point was, the US news is heavily censored also.
 
The point was, the US news is heavily censored also.

Their point has no merit. In China, the news is hevily censored by the government and the party, and there are no alternative news sources. In that, the GOVERNMENT/PARTY makes the determination what is altered and censored. In the United States, the news organizations make those decisions and there are FAR MORE OPTIONS available. If you knew anything about how the press in China operates, you would then be aware of the amount of absolute shame you should now feel, and how you have utterly NO credibility on this. BTW, can you READ the Chinese language (either Simplified or Traditional characters)? If you can't. you are not really in much of a position to comment on the pervasiveness and nature of the fabrication in the Chinese news media.
 
If you can't. you are not really in much of a position to comment on the pervasiveness and nature of the fabrication in the Chinese news media.

I wouldn't exactly cal you an objective source. That news is completely fabricated for propaganda purposes sounds like a stretch to me unless its been evidenced in the thread and I missed it.
 
The guy is wrong, where are all the videos of dead Iraqis the US killed with napalm and cluster bombs? The children who died from disease? Wheres the CNN footage, eh?
 
I wouldn't exactly cal you an objective source. That news is completely fabricated for propaganda purposes sounds like a stretch to me unless its been evidenced in the thread and I missed it.

I am not an objective source? And you rely more on the party-state control of a dictatorship as being more objective? You can choose to believe it or not, your choice. However, it doesn't change the fact that China's media regularly does this in Chinese. I have already cited three well known instances to those who can actually READ Chinese and communicte in the language. I was even there for one of them. I saw and experienced it first hand.

You can deny that the Chinese government LIED about the U.S. apology in 1999, but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

You can deny the fact that the Chinese government misreperesented the situation in Egypt, but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

You can deny the fact that the Chinese government altered the details of the Chinese downing of the U.S. recon plane, but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.
 
The guy is wrong, where are all the videos of dead Iraqis the US killed with napalm and cluster bombs? The children who died from disease? Wheres the CNN footage, eh?

Are you saying it hasn't been reported in the Western media??? Because if you are, you are definately 100% WRONG!!! And that is the difference. It HAS been reported, much to the embarassment of the governments in London and Washington. Were it in China, the government would be sure to block with all of the authority and power of a one-party dictatorial regime any such news from being published in the official publishing organs of the county. That is the point you and the Chi-Com lovers seem to miss. In the West, news outlets are free to make their own editorial decisions. In China, the Party-State makes the editorial decisions.
 
Damn skippy. Liberals have been saying this since the 2000 election. Back in the nineties, CNN used to be so great. When they investigated "Iraq-Gate" under Bush Sr.,
(how the U.S. sold Saddam weapons) they had new updates every hour, not simply repeating the same clips all day. Now all they do is spin away. Don't look at the truth hidden behind my back, look at this more palatable version of history/reality sanitized and censored for your viewing pleasure. Or, in Fox News case, video from another event all together, file footage from wherever we choose to pull it from. :roll:

"BEIJING (AFP) - An official Chinese newspaper has accused foreign journalists in the country of fabricating news in the latest sign of official nerves over an online campaign for anti-government rallies."

Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media - The West Australian

Bwahahahahahaha, the irony!!!!
 
I am not an objective source? And you rely more on the party-state control of a dictatorship as being more objective?

Funny, I was just watching the domestic US news now in english and some dude saw the exact same thing and interpreted it as a lie. What a dilemma. I didnt realize you were some sort of megacomputer man that is free of bias and can break down the media and government with a mere snap of his fingers.

Their point has no merit. In China, the news is hevily censored by the government and the party, and there are no alternative news sources. In that, the GOVERNMENT/PARTY makes the determination what is altered and censored. In the United States, the news organizations make those decisions and there are FAR MORE OPTIONS available.

Last I checked almost all news on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is given to the US media by the pentagon. Really objective. Lots of options... or one really.
 
I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere but I'd just really like to point out the irony of China's state media accusing someone else of fabrication.
 
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