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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Chinese first: Tiananmen Square mentioned in official newspaper - CSMonitor.com

    I did a search on Tiennamen square because I figured that would be an easy one
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    Thanks.

    My take of the article: Coming from the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, it may be accurate but i disagree with their bias against China.Google and Yahoo, American companies, were both caught turning in Chinese dissidents who did nothing except write about their political beliefs. So, America is guilty of many of the same crimes it accuses China of. Namely unlawful detention and torture. It is worth noting in a thread about press freedom, that the Christian Science Monitor went bankrupt years ago and was purchased by people connected to US govmnnt agencies.It is a US govmnt outlet like Voice of America or Radio Free Europe.
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    Kane, the Christian Science Monitor is one of the best papers out there. I find it interesting that you find bias in that highly-respected paper, all the while giving the Chinese press a pass. Really?
    1. the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, the flottilla of doom (that is a serious flaw, censorship and dishonesty, who died left them above the fray?)

    2. the CSM has the most mildest critiques of the most heinous war crimes and gestapo tactics, and are tied up in the govenrment somehow, there is fine line between NGO's, the intel agencies, the military and embedded reporting!

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    4. Scientotlogy are dirty tricksters, possibly CIA

    5. A conflict of interest means you should resign. (i.e)government employees in the TV media, North, Huckabee etc. and plagarists who get caught. Thats called, spell it with me now ... ETHICS.

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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    I'd be willing to bet that there are western propaganda incursions into China that make up plenty of news and facts. Why is that surprising?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Shouldn't this be down in the humor section? Chinese media accusing others of fabricating news? LOL. That'd be like Cold War Era "Pravda" chastising the US Media.
    Can't a thief accuse another thief of thieving and be right?

    Journalists get away with a lot. Some journalists engage in outright blackmail. But one hears only of "suppression of the free press". If a jounralist gets hurt or something, they will all try to defend their own. A journalist gets sexually assaulted in Egypt - big story, but rape occurs every day to women every where. Not to mention the hypocrisy in the jounanlists' rank regarding the westerners and the "native" journalists. A lot of those working with the western jounralists to get their story to the "western media" get hurt or killed.

    Journalists do a neccessary job and those in the West are more active and have more freedom than others, a lot of them probably do their jobs out of idealistic reasons too, but it doesn't mean that there are no fault within their rank worthy of criticism.
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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that there are western propaganda incursions into China that make up plenty of news and facts. Why is that surprising?
    How, do they have news with a spectrum of political alignments that can be swayed?

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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    How, do they have news with a spectrum of political alignments that can be swayed?
    I don't know what you're talking about.

    I know, for example, that Miami exiles commonly infiltrate Cuban airwaves with propaganda, a lot of which is just straight up lies. Same goes for the DPRK and the Eastern Bloc during the cold war. It's a typical tactic.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Then you're talking about pirate radio. I doubt they have anything like the news in the US which can be swayed by interests. Or so I believe.

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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Then you're talking about pirate radio. I doubt they have anything like the news in the US which can be swayed by interests. Or so I believe.
    I don't know what you mean by "the news" being "swayed by interests".

    Do you mean the people being swayed by news outlets as a propaganda tool?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Damn skippy. Liberals have been saying this since the 2000 election. Back in the nineties, CNN used to be so great. When they investigated "Iraq-Gate" under Bush Sr.,
    (how the U.S. sold Saddam weapons) they had new updates every hour, not simply repeating the same clips all day. Now all they do is spin away. Don't look at the truth hidden behind my back, look at this more palatable version of history/reality sanitized and censored for your viewing pleasure. Or, in Fox News case, video from another event all together, file footage from wherever we choose to pull it from.

    "BEIJING (AFP) - An official Chinese newspaper has accused foreign journalists in the country of fabricating news in the latest sign of official nerves over an online campaign for anti-government rallies."

    Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media - The West Australian
    Looks like FOX News is not limited to viewers in the United States.
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    Re: Western journalists 'fabricate' news: China media

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Thanks.

    My take of the article: Coming from the Christian Science Monitor, a paper that NEVER criticizes Israel, it may be accurate but i disagree with their bias against China.
    Google and Yahoo, American companies, were both caught turning in Chinese dissidents who did nothing except write about their political beliefs. So, America is guilty of many of the same crimes it accuses China of. Namely unlawful detention and torture. It is worth noting in a thread about press freedom, that the Christian Science Monitor went bankrupt years ago and was purchased by people connected to US govmnnt agencies.It is a US govmnt outlet like Voice of America or Radio Free Europe.
    What does CSM's stance on Israel have to do with China? I lived in China in the 1990s and I still occasionally monitor Chinese-language news reports froming out of China. They regularly censor and alter the news. One recent gem was in the Chinese-language press when they pointed out that the protests in Egypt that went on for weeks was the inevitable result of democracy, when in fact democracy does not (and still does not) exist in Egypt. They also told people for more than a week that the U.S. refused to apologize for the accidental bombing of their embassy in 1999 in Belgrade when, in fact, the U.S. made a pretty quick apology. I also remember a lot of fictitious reports coming from Chinese-language media in the aftermath of the Chinese forced downing of the U.S. recon plane in the South China Sea in 2001.

    China's news media REGULARLY fabricates news and censors news and it is far more pervasive in its Chinese-language press then in the English language. They get away with such hypocrisy because the number of foreigners who read Chinese are very few.
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