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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Another union member weighs in with hystrionics. Bravo.
    Oh here we have Miss Lovely. How do you do?

    Aren't you the same lovely lady who proposed that Americans should vote based on how much income taxes they pay? How's that coming along? I'm sorry, but you must understand why I can't possibly take you seriously.


    The sad thing is that ordinary folks like you, who live on a middle class income or a little above, believe the propogandas against your own neighbors. Enough so that you would turn on the folks that are going through the same hardships like you and bark in favor of the ultra rich who wouldn't give you the time of day. Tsk, tsk.

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    Re: Senate Moves To Bring 'Wisconsin 14' Back, Possibly By Force

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What in the hell is this babble?
    English. I thought conservatives were all about the language, despite how few seem to speak (and even fewer, read) it. Apparently I was wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You're losing.....badly......and the nation is laughing at your pathetic party and its crybaby tactics.
    I wasn't aware the Greater Pocatello Christian Businessman's Club was its own nation, but thanks for the local news update. The rest of America will...take it under advisement.

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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    How are they holding democracy "hostage" by acting out for the people?
    They are preventing a vote by those who represent the people. They are a minority party, they aren't getting their way, so they are acting like spoiled children and running from a vote they will lose.
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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    I can't say that I blame the GOP, and face it, the democrats have shown nothing BUT contempt for the democratic process there. A perp-walk of legislative dissidents would be amusing, true, but I'm not certain it can be legally accomplished. We'll see.

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    Re: Senate Moves To Bring 'Wisconsin 14' Back, Possibly By Force

    A representative of the people, must do their jobs.

    That is what we vote them into power for.

    That's what we pay them for.

    You don't want to do the job the job the public, the people have entrusted you with.

    Well **** you.

    I don't agree with what the republicans are doing.

    But what the wisconsin democrats are doing is cowardly and unbefitting of representative of the people.

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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    Oh here we have Miss Lovely. How do you do?

    Aren't you the same lovely lady who proposed that Americans should vote based on how much income taxes they pay? How's that coming along? I'm sorry, but you must understand why I can't possibly take you seriously.


    The sad thing is that ordinary folks like you, who live on a middle class income or a little above, believe the propogandas against your own neighbors. Enough so that you would turn on the folks that are going through the same hardships like you and bark in favor of the ultra rich who wouldn't give you the time of day. Tsk, tsk.
    I'll tsk you. I do like the Ms Lovely reference, though. I am that same person!! How nice of you to remember. I can only assume the mere thought emblazened my name into your consciousness. Don't take it too seriously. I didn't. ;-)

    There's nothing ordinary about me, Ill Will. And why on earth would you assume I live on a middle class or slightly above income? You have not a clue. I live a blessed life. Never belonged to a union. Some people need them desperately. Perhaps you are one of those. As long as you're not in the public sector, I have no problem with that. At all. Live long and prosper, Animus.
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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, Drama Queen. Slow down.

    Union workers are virtually impossible to terminate. These folks are getting packages most people can't imagine, despite the fact they are compensated solely through taxpayer dollars.

    Why can't they negotiate for themselves like the other 88 percent of American workers do? Why should they be able to unionize against the taxpayers who pay them?
    You know who else has a package you can't possibly imagine? Black men.



    I'm kidding! I'm kidding!
    If you want to look at large, enormous packages...you'll have to look further than a teacher's salary. The average starting salary for teachers is $30,000 give or take. You're barking up the wrong tree doggy.

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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    If you want to look at large, enormous packages...you'll have to look further than a teacher's salary. The average starting salary for teachers is $30,000 give or take.
    Ignoring your crude sense of "humor" here's something for you to look at....

    “When people say that public sector employees live high off the hog, I’d like to share that for 13 of my 19-year teaching career I have held a part-time job either in the summer or teaching night class at the local technical college,” Lechleiter-Luke told CNN. “In addition to tightening the belt even more and crossing our fingers that nothing breaks, I will need to find part-time work again.”

    Lechleiter-Luke makes $54,928 in base salary and $32,213 in “fringe benefits,” which include health insurance, life insurance and retirement pay.

    Brad Lutes and his wife, Heather Lutes, told MSNBC’s Ed Schultz that Walker’s budget would hit them twice as hard.

    “Having to explain to an 8- and 10-year old that the governor of your state basically wants to take money away from dad and mom? It’s just really, really frustrating,” Brad Lutes told Schultz.

    He makes $49,412 in base salary with $27,987 in fringe benefits and his wife makes $50,240 with $9,413 in benefits. That’s $137,052 annually between the two of them.
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    Teaching salaries in Wisconsin have increased since 2007. For example, the average teacher salary in Wisconsin in 2009 was $48,743, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. This is a 2.91 percent increase from 2008 in which the average teacher salary in Wisconsin was $47,365. The average teacher salary in Wisconsin increased by less than 1% from 2007-2008, but increased nearly 3% from 2008-2009.

    Although it did not increase significantly, the Wisconsin teacher salary rankings actually lowered. Wisconsin teacher salaries ranked 18th in 2007, while in both 2008 and 2009, the Wisconsin teacher salaries rankings fell to 24th in the country. Based upon this trend, individuals can assume that salaries will increase slightly, even if national rankings fall.

    Wisconsin teacher salaries are summarized in the Wisconsin Teacher Salary Schedule below:
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    You'll have to click the link above this line to see the small chart they got there.

    The Daily Caller started reporting the salaries and benefits of teachers who went public with their complaints on Monday, and this story will contain more of them.

    Politico reported that Michael Mulvey, a high school algebra teacher in Wauwatosa, Walker’s hometown, held a sign that read: “Scott, I taught your son algebra. My son just turned 5. Does he deserve a good education?”

    Mulvey makes $46,687 in base salary and $25,481 in “fringe benefits,” which include health insurance, life insurance and retirement pay.

    Politico also reported that a high school math teacher from Green Bay, Karen Hill, traveled to Madison on a bus full of fellow teachers to protests, and held a sign that read, “negotiate not dictate.”

    [ For complete coverage of politics and policy, go to Yahoo! Politics ]


    Hill makes $59,695 in base salary with an additional $28,398 in benefits.

    Martha Vasquez, an art teacher in Madison, told Politico that she was irked more at former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin chiming into the debate than she was at Walker.

    “I was really surprised when Sarah Palin weighted in,” Vasquez said. “This bill is ripping apart the of what it means to be a Wisconsinite. We value education.”

    Vasquez makes $50,018 in base salary and $11,188 in benefits.
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    As a side note to that last quote...Vasquez says that "we value education"....I call BS

    Anyways...What were you saying again there Animus?
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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    Because Rosa Parks should have just moved to the back of the bus as was told to because she was making everyone else late.

    Because children should have just kept working at low hourly wages 12-14 hours a day because they were affecting production.

    Because slaves should have just continued doing their jobs since not doing so would affect the society because white men would actually have to pay them for work.

    Because women should have just accepted their position as second rate citizens in society because that's always been what was expected of them instead pursuing equal rights.
    So you're touting something that Unions helped fixed how many decades ago now???,

    Unions were formed to right inequalities and promote safety in the work place. Those issues have been settled a long time ago. Now about the only issues that Unions deal with is trying to get the most bang for the buck. Name me one public union buisness that makes the same or less than a public non-union buisness. Hell, I can't even remember the last time that a Union hollered about safety concerns. I hear em all the time about wanting pay raises though....
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    Re: Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I looks like the Wisconsin Republicans have gone over the edge...

    Senate Republicans threaten missing Democrats with contempt - JSOnline

    Madison — Republicans in the state Senate ordered Democrats on Thursday to return to the chamber by 4 p.m. or be found in contempt of the Senate - a move that means Democrats could be taken into custody.

    "We simply cannot have democracy be held hostage because the minority wants to prove a point," said Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau).

    Senate Democrats have been out of the state since Feb. 17 to prevent passage of GOP Gov. Scott Walker's budget-repair bill. At least 20 senators must be present to pass the bill, but Republicans hold just 19 seats.

    ..
    Oh sure. Abandoning your duties and leaving the state isn't over the edge but this is certainly over the edge.

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