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Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

Hatuey said:
Isn't she a hockey mom? You're playing semantics. What I see right now is a right wing that is willing to have Palin talk **** as long as she isn't in a possition of power. Seems like they're not so sure about the reality TV star's ability to actually beat Obama. All talk, no action.
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Obama's already out. He'll be kickin' it in Chicago, by March of 2013. The only real question is, will it be a Republican, or a Democrat that sends him packin'.
 
MrVicchio said:
Who is gonna run against Obama for the Dem's in 2012? What a silly commentary.
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Really? You don't get it? Or is it that you do get it, but you don't care? You don't see how a news agency which hires likely presidential candidates is no longer presenting news, it's pushing propaganda?

By the way, the upcomining election is not this nation's first, which news agency ever made a practice of hiring likely presidential candidates?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Really? You don't get it? Or is it that you do get it, but you don't care? You don't see how a news agency which hires likely presidential candidates is no longer presenting news, it's pushing propaganda?

By the way, the upcomining election is not this nation's first, which news agency ever made a practice of hiring likely presidential candidates?
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Don't watch that channel. Watch CNN, or PMSNBC, or something. Of course you won't see any candidates for prez on either of those two channels, because there isn't anyone on either of them smart enough to run for dog catcher, much less president.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Really? You don't get it? Or is it that you do get it, but you don't care? You don't see how a news agency which hires likely presidential candidates is no longer presenting news, it's pushing propaganda?

By the way, the upcomining election is not this nation's first, which news agency ever made a practice of hiring likely presidential candidates?
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PLEASE. Your outrage can be easily dismissed with one simple example. Former White House Press Secretary George Stephanopolous.

OMG ABC IS PROPAGANDA FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!

See how silly you sound?


I don't care because there is nothing to care, these people are hired as COMMENTATORS. Editorial shows, insight into political on goings. They aren't JOURNALIST doing the news.
 
MrVicchio said:
PLEASE. Your outrage can be easily dismissed with one simple example. Former White House Press Secretary George Stephanopolous.

OMG ABC IS PROPAGANDA FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!

See how silly you sound?
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Perhaps it would be silly if your analogy was rooted in equilibrium, but it's not. What political office is George Stephanopolous seeking or likely to seek?

MrVicchio said:
I don't care because there is nothing to care, these people are hired as COMMENTATORS. Editorial shows, insight into political on goings. They aren't JOURNALIST doing the news.
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No one said they're journalists. My beef is that they're hired by a company purporting to be a news agency. Fox is demonstrating it's not a news agency, it's a tool for the GOP.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Perhaps it would be silly if your analogy was rooted in equilibrium, but it's not. What political office is George Stephanopolous seeking or likely to seek?


No one said they're journalists. My beef is that they're hired by a company purporting to be a news agency. Fox is demonstrating it's not a news agency, it's a tool for the GOP.
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Newt and Santorum were Conservative politicians before they went to work for FNC. They didn't become Conservative politicians after they went to work for FNC and that's where I think you're having problems understanding.
 
MrVicchio said:
PLEASE. Your outrage can be easily dismissed with one simple example. Former White House Press Secretary George Stephanopolous.

OMG ABC IS PROPAGANDA FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!

See how silly you sound?


I don't care because there is nothing to care, these people are hired as COMMENTATORS. Editorial shows, insight into political on goings. They aren't JOURNALIST doing the news.
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You don't think it's a little ridiculous that at least four Fox News employees are in position to run for president? Not just one person, and not for an appointed position of press secretary, but four and for the President of the United States of America.

Do you really think it would be OK if four people who worked for CNN ran for the democratic nomination? I don't think it would be ok. If four of my candidates come from one company, I know somethings wrong.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Perhaps it would be silly if your analogy was rooted in equilibrium, but it's not. What political office is George Stephanopolous seeking or likely to seek?
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He was the White House Press Secretary. The media mouth piece for the President, moving on to be an anchor for a major news organization.

Sheik Yerbuti said:
No one said they're journalists. My beef is that they're hired by a company purporting to be a news agency. Fox is demonstrating it's not a news agency, it's a tool for the GOP.
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That is your opinion. Fox News is a right leaning news organization, I seriously doubt anything they do is good in your eyes. However, you are making an outrage over a non-issue. Fox hires commentators that will help it's ratings, and puts them in the proper context, commentary, not news. Which is where your argument fails miserably, they do not drive the news, the comment on it. If Fox provided zero liberal commentators you'd have a point, however they do thus you're just ranting and rather weakly at that.
 
apdst said:
Newt and Santorum were Conservative politicians before they went to work for FNC. They didn't become Conservative politicians after they went to work for FNC and that's where I think you're having problems understanding.
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Who said they became Conservative politicians after working for Fox? This isn't about the Conservative politicians, it's about Fox hiring them. How can they be fair and balanced when they make it a practice to hire likely presidential candidates?

They're obviously biased and that taints their credibility as a news agency.
 
whysoserious said:
You don't think it's a little ridiculous that at least four Fox News employees are in position to run for president? Not just one person, and not for an appointed position of press secretary, but four and for the President of the United States of America.

Do you really think it would be OK if four people who worked for CNN ran for the democratic nomination? I don't think it would be ok. If four of my candidates come from one company, I know somethings wrong.
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In February 1996, Ferraro joined the high-visibility CNN political talk show Crossfire,[127] as the co-host representing the "from the left" vantage. She kept her brassy, rapid-fire speech and New York accent intact, and her trial experience from her prosecutor days was a good fit for the program's format.[128] She sparred effectively with "from the right" co-host Pat Buchanan,[128] for whom she developed a personal liking.[129] The show stayed strong in ratings for CNN,[130] and the job was lucrative.[92][131] She welcomed how the role "keeps me visible [and] keeps me extremely well informed on the issues."[128]
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Yes, as you can see, Fox is unique in this....

Mountains out of molehills here.
 
MrVicchio said:
He was the White House Press Secretary. The media mouth piece for the President, moving on to be an anchor for a major news organization.
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Ok, so the answer to my question before about 'do you not get it or do you just not care,' is you don't get it.

While I'm pointing out the obvious bias of a news agency making it a practice of hiring people who are likely going to run for political office, you counter that a non-sequitur about a news agency who hires a former presidential aid who's never held a political office; and more to the point, has not expressed an interest in running in an upcoming election.

MrVicchio said:
That is your opinion.
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So? That's what we do here, express our opinions.

MrVicchio said:
Fox News is a right leaning news organization
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Thanks for admitting Fox is not a credible news agency. Credible news agencies don't lean left or right.
 
MrVicchio said:
Geraldine Ferraro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, as you can see, Fox is unique in this....

Mountains out of molehills here.
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Another non-sequitur. I'm talking about a company that purports to be a news agency which makes it a practice of hiring likely presidential candidates and you respond with an ex-politcian who didn't express political aspirations for her future.

You really don't get it.

Not to mention, you point to a show on CNN which pitted left against right. That is fair and balanced. Where's the left represented on Fox?
 
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Awaiting your "outrage"
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Ok, so the answer to my question before about 'do you not get it or do you just not care,' is you don't get it.

While I'm pointing out the obvious bias of a news agency making it a practice of hiring people who are likely going to run for political office, you counter that a non-sequitur about a news agency who hires a former presidential aid who's never held a political office; and more to the point, has not expressed an interest in running in an upcoming election.


So? That's what we do here, express our opinions.


Thanks for admitting Fox is not a credible news agency. Credible news agencies don't lean left or right.
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You're ranting, with very little basis in reality, just taking a talking point from the internet and running with it. It's amusing. Read Huffpo much? Potential GOP Presidential Candidates Speak Through Fox News, Rarely On Other Networks
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Who said they became Conservative politicians after working for Fox? This isn't about the Conservative politicians, it's about Fox hiring them. How can they be fair and balanced when they make it a practice to hire likely presidential candidates?

They're obviously biased and that taints their credibility as a news agency.
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And you have absolutely no idea what journalism is. How is this different than having Paul Begala or James Carville on CNN?

Hint: Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity aren't journalists. They don't claim to be either. Neither are Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann, or any of the fools you likely follow.

The sad thing is how folks like Wolf Blitzer, Katie Couric, or Dan Rather actually CLAIM to be journalists, when in fact they are obviously devoutly liberal. Once upon a time, the media machine got away with this because there wasn't an opposing view aired on TV. Cable, and Fox, changed all that, and now there's an opinionated political entermainment industry on both sides to disseminate the news in prime time.

The difference is, even O'Reilly and Hannity show the opposite view by bringing on legimitate liberal commentators like Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Alan Colmes......

MSNBC would NEVER do that. CNN brings on moderate conservatives and treats them like tokens.

In that respect, Fox is the only fair and balanced presenation you get. (And, for the record, I can't stand O'Reilly, Beck, or Hannity)

Watch Bret Baier, Neil Cavuto, Brit Hume, or Mike Wallace on Fox. Those are people I trust for accurate information.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Who said they became Conservative politicians after working for Fox? This isn't about the Conservative politicians, it's about Fox hiring them. How can they be fair and balanced when they make it a practice to hire likely presidential candidates?

They're obviously biased and that taints their credibility as a news agency.
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It actually says something very positive about Fox News that they are able to attract such high quality people to make political commentary that they are in a position to run for the presidency. The same certainly could not be said of any other major news organization. Fox just goes after the best, which is why they continue to grow while others are in decline.

If you want the best political and insightful commentary you have to watch Fox News, otherwise you're just watching the puppies yapping at their heels. It's amusing to watch the other commentators but seldom very insightful. Wolf Blitzer on CNN certainly tries his best though.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
How can they possibly be fair and balanced?
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I've always kinda thought to myself that if you really need to say that you're fair and balanced every time you go to a commercial, then run a commercial saying how you're fair and balanced then come back from commercial and tell people how you're fair and balanced etc. you're probably not that fair or balanced, lol.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I've always kinda thought to myself that if you really need to say that you're fair and balanced every time you go to a commercial, then run a commercial saying how you're fair and balanced then come back from commercial and tell people how you're fair and balanced etc. you're probably not that fair or balanced, lol.
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So you feel the commercials should be "fair and balanced" also. That all soap powders should get an equal hearing?

It's always interesting to hear from MSNBC viewers.
 
Grant said:
So you feel the commercials should be "fair and balanced" also.
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That makes no sense. I said nothing of the sort. You either misunderstood me or are being willfully ignorant. Take your pick.
Grant said:
That all soap powders should get an equal hearing?
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I agree, very silly. Now if you could only find someone that actually said anything of the sort then you'd really have a great point against them.
Grant said:
It's always interesting to hear from MSNBC viewers.
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I can't remember the last time I watched MSNBC. Your powers of guessing are about as good as the guy at the carnival with the goofy hat clumsily guessing how much people weigh. Your boss is going to be mad that you're giving out so many prizes though.
 
roughdraft274 said:
That makes no sense. I said nothing of the sort. You either misunderstood me or are being willfully ignorant. Take your pick.

I agree, very silly. Now if you could only find someone that actually said anything of the sort then you'd really have a great point against them.

I can't remember the last time I watched MSNBC. Your powers of guessing are about as good as the guy at the carnival with the goofy hat clumsily guessing how much people weigh. Your boss is going to be mad that you're giving out so many prizes though.
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Hey, guessing people's weight isn't as easy as it looks! I'm lucky if i get minimum wage some nights.
 
Grant said:
Hey, guessing people's weight isn't as easy as it looks!
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Neither is picking out MSNBC viewers so it seems. Maybe you should just stick to what you know, whenever you find out what that is of course...
 
Hatuey said:
Or as they say back in California: all show, no action.
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In Texas it's 'All hat, no cattle'. Means the same thing. Full of BS, no substance.


They're floundering, they don't have a clue. Look at the HOR.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Neither is picking out MSNBC viewers so it seems. Maybe you should just stick to what you know, whenever you find out what that is of course...
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Why are the poor MSNBC viewers so sensitive?

People have no hesitation in criticizing Fox News, though their criticisms are seldom specific, but laugh at the Left and they go into a snit! The poor dears just can't take it and will either sulk or fly into a rage whenever their goofy beliefs are at all scrutinized.
 
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