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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post

    If you were in Fox's situation why wouldn't you hire a group of people like the four that we're talking about. They obviously have exclusive knwoledge to the conservative movement, and are public idols for the figure.
    Personally, no, I wouldn't hire anybody who was possibly running for president in an upcoming election because as a news agency, I wouldn't want to appear biased. Someone earlier mentioned CNN hiring Pat Buchanan. That, I believe, is almost as wrong as what Fox is doing now. The only difference being that at least CNN hired him in a format which pitted left against right, so it's hard to find bias when both sides are presented in the same show; it was still wrong for the same inherent reason, but not as blatantly biased as Fox is being about it.

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    Secondly, such as...? What are you arguing? You agreed with my statement that all networks push propoganda, not just Fox..
    Oh? How did I do that?

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    For starters, how about ex-politicians with no aspirations of running for president? Then at least, the news agency hiring them acquires the same level of expertise without taking a hit to their credibility.
    I have a funny feeling nothing short of hiring Olbremann and turning the News Room over to the NY Times would raise Fox's credibility with you. However, I'll bite on your non-point.

    What you are MAD about isn't "Fox News' credibility, it's pretty clear you just don't like the network. What has you upset is that these politicians were given public visibility via their work with Fox News. Let's just cut the bull eh? I've already decimated every point you've made. Let's get down to brass tacks. By working with Fox, Palin, Huckabee, Newt... are able to "stay in the public discourse", and that irks you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No, ya don't. Don't even try to pretend like you do because it's obvious you don't. If you did, you wouldn't have even mentioned the names, Stephanopoulos, Ferraro, or Dean, as none of those examples were comparable to what I am talking about.
    I was using SIMILAR situations because you are being dishonest as hell. Who, aside a few fringe elements, will even attempt to get the 2012 Nod for the Dems? Hmm? Hillary? There ARE no Dem Candidates looking to run of any note.

    You're claims are silly, your basis unfounded, your logic flawed and your analysis dishonest.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

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    Yeah, ya did. My point is that a news agency which hires presidential candidates, takes a hit to its credibility.


    OK< Which presidential candidates did Fox News hire? The fact is they didn't hire any.

    You point out that only Fox does. That makes my point. Now I understand you believe it's the opposite of that, that being Fox is the one here with credibility, and that no other news agency has the credibility of Fox, but that would rely on there being nothing wrong with a news agency being married to a potential president, which I would hope, you can understand the inherent problems with that.
    You seemed to have missed the news that as soon as there was a possibility that these people were likely candidates, they were dismissed.

    What I'm saying is that the the caliber of the people at Fox is much higher than that of the other news networks. That is obvious by the candidates who are making noises about running for president. There may be more who will resign should they become candidates, and that could include Huckabee or Palin, but in the meanwhile it certainly seems that Fox hires the best people. Nobody else even comes close. Not one candidate among them, or likely candidate.


    How do you plan on backing that up?
    By the ratings and the fact that several of their commentators are possible presidential candidates. There is simply no comparison.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    For starters, how about ex-politicians with no aspirations of running for president? Then at least, the news agency hiring them acquires the same level of expertise without taking a hit to their credibility.

    No, ya don't. Don't even try to pretend like you do because it's obvious you don't. If you did, you wouldn't have even mentioned the names, Stephanopoulos, Ferraro, or Dean, as none of those examples were comparable to what I am talking about.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What I'd like to know is how can Fox News be considered a credible news agency when it's very likely that most, if not all, of the serious Republican candidates next year will have at one time been on their pay role? How can they possibly be fair and balanced?
    what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

    FOX is not a credible news agency, because people who contribute on air run for President? I hope you hole ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. all to that standard.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Personally, no, I wouldn't hire anybody who was possibly running for president in an upcoming election because as a news agency, I wouldn't want to appear biased.
    What is your statute of limitations? How long before an election should FOX avoid having someone on the payroll if they 'might' run for President? 1 year? 2? 4? Never? Be specific.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …


    That's pretty unfair. Just because the men may decide to run for president they are kicking them off the air? What if they eventually change their minds and decides not to run?

    They should have let both of them stay on.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    I have a funny feeling nothing short of hiring Olbremann and turning the News Room over to the NY Times would raise Fox's credibility with you.
    Why would I want to see Olbermann associated with a news agency? He was with MSNBC and I made it clear that I see MSNBC in the same light as I see Fox, only they lean left.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    What you are MAD about isn't "Fox News' credibility, it's pretty clear you just don't like the network. What has you upset is that these politicians were given public visibility via their work with Fox News.
    Do you really think you need to keep reminding me that you don't understand what I'm talking about? I get that, you can stop now.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    Let's just cut the bull eh? I've already decimated every point you've made.
    Wow. I'm impressed. I've never had my opinion decimated by an endless stream of non-sequiturs before. Kudos to you and your delusional brain that sees victories where none exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    Let's get down to brass tacks. By working with Fox, Palin, Huckabee, Newt... are able to "stay in the public discourse", and that irks you.
    This is where your position gets derailed. Those people could have remained embedded in "public discourse" without joining a purported news agency. Once again, you demonstrate you really have no idea at all what I'm talking about as I don't care if they're in the public daily. Palin has (or had) her own reality TV show, I couldn't care less. If you knew what I was talking about, you would have realized my problem is with Fox no longer even attempting to conceal its bias by hiring potential presidential candidates. Regretably, you don't; probably never will.

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    I was using SIMILAR situations because you are being dishonest as hell.
    That's funny. You probably really do believe the examples you cited were similar.

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    Class dismissed!
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    Impressive. Educated by someone who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Who knew such things were even possible?

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air …

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    That's pretty unfair. Just because the men may decide to run for president they are kicking them off the air? What if they eventually change their minds and decides not to run?

    They should have let both of them stay on.
    They didnt fire them, they are suspended while running for president. It just means they will not get a paycheck from fox.

    As you’ve probably heard by now, Fox News has suspended the contracts of Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum for sixty days. They will have to tell Fox News within sixty days whether they intend to run for the presidency or their contracts will be terminated.

    Contracts for Governor Palin and Mike Huckabee were not among the contracts suspended. Huckabee’s contract was not suspended because his “present intention is to sell books.” Governor Palin’s contract was not suspended because “[s]he hasn’t yet shown a serious intention to form an exploratory committee.”
    They can not work for Fox also because it would be like they were being endorsed by them. (BY receiving money)
    Fox News suspends Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
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