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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Perhaps it would be silly if your analogy was rooted in equilibrium, but it's not. What political office is George Stephanopolous seeking or likely to seek?


    No one said they're journalists. My beef is that they're hired by a company purporting to be a news agency. Fox is demonstrating it's not a news agency, it's a tool for the GOP.
    Newt and Santorum were Conservative politicians before they went to work for FNC. They didn't become Conservative politicians after they went to work for FNC and that's where I think you're having problems understanding.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    PLEASE. Your outrage can be easily dismissed with one simple example. Former White House Press Secretary George Stephanopolous.

    OMG ABC IS PROPAGANDA FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!

    See how silly you sound?


    I don't care because there is nothing to care, these people are hired as COMMENTATORS. Editorial shows, insight into political on goings. They aren't JOURNALIST doing the news.
    You don't think it's a little ridiculous that at least four Fox News employees are in position to run for president? Not just one person, and not for an appointed position of press secretary, but four and for the President of the United States of America.

    Do you really think it would be OK if four people who worked for CNN ran for the democratic nomination? I don't think it would be ok. If four of my candidates come from one company, I know somethings wrong.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Perhaps it would be silly if your analogy was rooted in equilibrium, but it's not. What political office is George Stephanopolous seeking or likely to seek?
    He was the White House Press Secretary. The media mouth piece for the President, moving on to be an anchor for a major news organization.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No one said they're journalists. My beef is that they're hired by a company purporting to be a news agency. Fox is demonstrating it's not a news agency, it's a tool for the GOP.
    That is your opinion. Fox News is a right leaning news organization, I seriously doubt anything they do is good in your eyes. However, you are making an outrage over a non-issue. Fox hires commentators that will help it's ratings, and puts them in the proper context, commentary, not news. Which is where your argument fails miserably, they do not drive the news, the comment on it. If Fox provided zero liberal commentators you'd have a point, however they do thus you're just ranting and rather weakly at that.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    Newt and Santorum were Conservative politicians before they went to work for FNC. They didn't become Conservative politicians after they went to work for FNC and that's where I think you're having problems understanding.
    Who said they became Conservative politicians after working for Fox? This isn't about the Conservative politicians, it's about Fox hiring them. How can they be fair and balanced when they make it a practice to hire likely presidential candidates?

    They're obviously biased and that taints their credibility as a news agency.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You don't think it's a little ridiculous that at least four Fox News employees are in position to run for president? Not just one person, and not for an appointed position of press secretary, but four and for the President of the United States of America.

    Do you really think it would be OK if four people who worked for CNN ran for the democratic nomination? I don't think it would be ok. If four of my candidates come from one company, I know somethings wrong.
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    Yes, as you can see, Fox is unique in this....

    Mountains out of molehills here.
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    He was the White House Press Secretary. The media mouth piece for the President, moving on to be an anchor for a major news organization.
    Ok, so the answer to my question before about 'do you not get it or do you just not care,' is you don't get it.

    While I'm pointing out the obvious bias of a news agency making it a practice of hiring people who are likely going to run for political office, you counter that a non-sequitur about a news agency who hires a former presidential aid who's never held a political office; and more to the point, has not expressed an interest in running in an upcoming election.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

    That is your opinion.
    So? That's what we do here, express our opinions.

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    Fox News is a right leaning news organization
    Thanks for admitting Fox is not a credible news agency. Credible news agencies don't lean left or right.

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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post

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    Yes, as you can see, Fox is unique in this....

    Mountains out of molehills here.
    Another non-sequitur. I'm talking about a company that purports to be a news agency which makes it a practice of hiring likely presidential candidates and you respond with an ex-politcian who didn't express political aspirations for her future.

    You really don't get it.


    Not to mention, you point to a show on CNN which pitted left against right. That is fair and balanced. Where's the left represented on Fox?
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, so the answer to my question before about 'do you not get it or do you just not care,' is you don't get it.

    While I'm pointing out the obvious bias of a news agency making it a practice of hiring people who are likely going to run for political office, you counter that a non-sequitur about a news agency who hires a former presidential aid who's never held a political office; and more to the point, has not expressed an interest in running in an upcoming election.



    So? That's what we do here, express our opinions.


    Thanks for admitting Fox is not a credible news agency. Credible news agencies don't lean left or right.

    You're ranting, with very little basis in reality, just taking a talking point from the internet and running with it. It's amusing. Read Huffpo much? Potential GOP Presidential Candidates Speak Through Fox News, Rarely On Other Networks
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    Re: Fox News pulls Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum off the air

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Who said they became Conservative politicians after working for Fox? This isn't about the Conservative politicians, it's about Fox hiring them. How can they be fair and balanced when they make it a practice to hire likely presidential candidates?

    They're obviously biased and that taints their credibility as a news agency.
    And you have absolutely no idea what journalism is. How is this different than having Paul Begala or James Carville on CNN?

    Hint: Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity aren't journalists. They don't claim to be either. Neither are Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann, or any of the fools you likely follow.

    The sad thing is how folks like Wolf Blitzer, Katie Couric, or Dan Rather actually CLAIM to be journalists, when in fact they are obviously devoutly liberal. Once upon a time, the media machine got away with this because there wasn't an opposing view aired on TV. Cable, and Fox, changed all that, and now there's an opinionated political entermainment industry on both sides to disseminate the news in prime time.

    The difference is, even O'Reilly and Hannity show the opposite view by bringing on legimitate liberal commentators like Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Alan Colmes......

    MSNBC would NEVER do that. CNN brings on moderate conservatives and treats them like tokens.

    In that respect, Fox is the only fair and balanced presenation you get. (And, for the record, I can't stand O'Reilly, Beck, or Hannity)

    Watch Bret Baier, Neil Cavuto, Brit Hume, or Mike Wallace on Fox. Those are people I trust for accurate information.

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