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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    10) Finally back to junk mail - Think of all the trees that will be saved if the US Postal service dies.
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    Wood pulp is a crop just like corn. The trees are planted just to make paper, like Christmas trees are a crop grown special for that purpose. They are renewable. Tree farming employs thousands of people. Eliminate paper and the trees would never be planted so none would be saved and lumber jack jobs would be lost. Not to mention the paper manufacturers, printers, designers, artists, ink makers, printing equipment manufacturers, and the envelope stuffers. Also the vehicle builders, post office builders, sorting machine builders, maintenance people, would be out of work.

    Taxes from these people would be lost. I don't know how many people are employed directly and indirectly by having a postal service but that number must be in the millions. I would guess taxes from all those people would make up for the loss incurred by the post office.

    Eliminating the post office would cost millions of private jobs outside of the government employees.
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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Eliminating the post office would cost millions of private jobs outside of the government employees.
    And it would lead to millions more private jobs as entrepreneurs filled the letter-carrier niche that was taken up by the bloated bureaucracy of the post office.

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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    10) Finally back to junk mail - Think of all the trees that will be saved if the US Postal service dies.
    Think of all the lumberjacks out of work! You cold hearted bastard.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    And it would lead to millions more private jobs as entrepreneurs filled the letter-carrier niche that was taken up by the bloated bureaucracy of the post office.
    Is the emphasis on private or jobs? Cause if it's just on jobs, nothing beats bloated bureaucracy. They have a position for every conceivable action. Hell, they have 3 positions for every conceivable action.
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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Is the emphasis on private or jobs? Cause if it's just on jobs, nothing beats bloated bureaucracy. They have a position for every conceivable action. Hell, they have 3 positions for every conceivable action.
    These are not competing goals, they are synergistic. Striking down a bloated bureaucracy will lead to more jobs in the private sector as the need gets fills. Government jobs are not the kind of jobs we want, anyway, we want private sector jobs for real economic growth.

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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    I can hardly await the dream of single payer healthcare to go into full effect. I have a thrill running up my leg...

    oh wait, maybe it's the shingles.

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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    These are not competing goals, they are synergistic. Striking down a bloated bureaucracy will lead to more jobs in the private sector as the need gets fills. Government jobs are not the kind of jobs we want, anyway, we want private sector jobs for real economic growth.
    We do want a very large number of private sector jobs. That's not saying that we don't want government jobs. There are very very important government jobs from military service to scientific research to...I suppose politicians, damn their back souls. In general I'll opt for private over government; but not always. And this is one of those "not always". I'd rather the USPS exist. It can be changed, it can adapt to the evolving technology and needs of the people. But it needs to exist, it's a guaranteed postal service that everyone has access to. You can't do that in private. Mostly companies are stable and are fine, but there's no guarantee on that.

    There's probably a significant amount of restructuring they can do to try to slim down and be more efficient. But it's a government agency, it doesn't need to turn a profit in the end. It only has to exist.
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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We do want a very large number of private sector jobs. That's not saying that we don't want government jobs.
    You're getting distracted. This isn't about jobs, it's about spending. What we don't want is government jobs we cannot afford. Who is that benefitting?

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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're getting distracted. This isn't about jobs, it's about spending. What we don't want is government jobs we cannot afford. Who is that benefitting?
    It depends on what you're getting. In the case of the USPS, it benefits everyone.
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    Re: Postal Service on path to be broke by October

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're getting distracted. This isn't about jobs, it's about spending. What we don't want is government jobs we cannot afford. Who is that benefitting?
    The taxes those private sector jobs create offset the loss of the post office. The post office creates private sector jobs that generate revenue that pays for the post office. The post office helps generate more revenue. If those jobs are eliminated tax revenue decline increasing the deficit. Eliminate the post office and millions of private sector jobs will be lost and so will that tax revenue. The post office generates income through taxes not just through postage
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