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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    polls this far out---help yourself

    we saw ppp, a dem pollster, put out something similar this week

    we saw nyt/cbs compile data from a sample that was 20% union households and dem by a plurality of ten

    CBS News/New York Times survey oversampled union households | Mark Tapscott | Beltway Confidential | Washington Examiner

    which is why we're seeing such a wild discrepancy

    rasmussen (founder of espn), rated by fordham university in 2008 america's most accurate pollster, has almost exact opposite numbers

    http://www.fordham.edu/images/academ...20election.pdf

    48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports™

    quinnipiac today came out with a small margin AGAINST collective bargaining

    National (US) Poll * March 2, 2011 * American Voters Split On Gove - Quinnipiac University – Hamden, Connecticut

    did you note in contrast how ALL the pollsters were of ONE VOICE in the months immediately preceding tsunami tuesday

    all the cooks, sabatos, rothenbergs, sean trendes

    even nate silver---LOL!

    polls this far out---knock yourself out

    the PROS today are plainly looking elsewhere

    cuomo, for instance, his ax is SAVAGE

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

    even moonbeam's mumbling, however his CUTS are clear and drastic

    it's coast to coast

    look at the wisconsin public unions EAGERLY begging to have their bennies cut and their pay-in's dramatically UPPED

    look at obama, hands off, distant, silent---still searching, evidently, for those comfy shoes

    Obama collective bargaining rights | campaigns walk picket line | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

    collective bargaining is just a straw in an overwhelming gust

    i'd be surprised you professional posters don't feel it, if i didn't know you so well

    our 50 states collectively are facing TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS of public pension shortfall alone

    FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    this is UNDERNEATH all the other crap, the CURRENT, in-your-face crisis that is medicaid funding, for example

    Medicaid funding busts governors' budgets - Feb. 28, 2011

    housing is STILL collapsing---property taxes thru the floor

    the GOVT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE audit released this week showed A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS of p-f-f-t, just GONE, lost, wasted, duplicated, never evaluated for effectiveness

    GAO Finds Massive Waste, Duplication - FoxBusiness.com

    just how many of those HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS are allocated in accord with POLITICAL PAYBACK

    americans are NOT naive

    we know exactly what's going on

    unionist clout is about to be drastically curtailed

    SLASHED

    from CALIFORNIA to neoliberal NEW YORK

    congrats, comrades

    stay up

    or we'll getcha on CIVILITY too!

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    This may be a different poll, but I found it interesting and wonder about the internals of the poll included in the op.

    A peek under the hood of the NYT/CBS poll « Hot Air

    First, the partisan split in the sample gave a ten-point advantage to Democrats. Their sample for this poll had a D/R/I split of 36/26/31, an absurd sample for political polling. In December, Rasmussen’s general-population survey put Republicans ahead, 36.0% to 34.7% for Democrats. A recent poll by Gallup shows erosion in Democratic affiliation all through 2010. In 2008, Barack Obama won the popular vote by seven points nationwide, and the NYT/CBS poll assumes that the electorate has grown more Democratic in 2011.

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I ignored your stupid question.
    I won't have to ask you stupid questions if you don't make stupid statements.

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    You seriously overrate union power.
    Clearly unions have little influence.

    The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), a 1.6 million member public sector union, has taken the lead as the biggest outside campaign spender in the 2010 election cycle, the Wall Street Journal reports.

    AFSCME is contributing a combined $87.5 million to support democratic candidates in the upcoming election
    Public-Sector Union AFSCME Now No.1 Spender in 2010 Election Cycle - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    There in lies the problem with lobbyists. What a waste of money that could be going to the employees.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    There in lies the problem with lobbyists. What a waste of money that could be going to the employees.
    I agree. I am not against unions per say. What I am against is their self serving interests. They have strayed in large from the working class and have steered toward their own personal gains at the expense of anyone in their way. They have become the very thing they originally fought against.

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports™

    hmm different strokes for different folks, seems Rasmussen doesn't quite agree with this poll...... but of course we know Rasmussen must be run by conservatives right ?

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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Rasmussen?!?!?!? like the used to say in the old MArvel Comics...."nuff said".
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    Re: 62% against stripping public employees' bargaining rights

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My point is, as a resident of New York, I know from experience that the unions have a lot of influence here, between what they spend themselves on vilifying their opposition and donate to the candidates that support them.
    And you 'know' this because?
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