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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Fair enough, it's radical Islam against the world. Still, I see that as an act of their ongoing war and not an act of terrorism.
    So, therefore, justified?


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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    Most of us grieve for the families of the US soldiers and especially the innocent Afghan children. What separates the two events is intent.

    The jihadi in Germany acted deliberately and intended to kill US soldiers.

    In Afghanistan, the US did not deliberately attack innocent children.
    Well there is a degree of mitigation on both sides, no? The soldiers killed in Germany, if you accept that there is a state of war existing between radical Islam and the West, were legitimate targets, were they not? It doesn't make their deaths any less regrettable, nor does the fact that the Afghan boys were killed deliberately, but in error, make their deaths any less regrettable.

    What is totally regrettable is this state of war, and I'm not seeing anyone on either side trying to resolve it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

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    Non Sequitur
    It would only be a non sequitur if the two events were entirely unrelated. They are not, so it is not.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Fair enough, it's radical Islam against the world. Still, I see that as an act of their ongoing war and not an act of terrorism.

    Likewise. Not sure how long I'm going to last though. I miss the craziness that permeated AWE. That was its charm and it's not tolerated here.
    I agree it can be reasonably described as an act of war. However, since one of their methods of fighing this war is by means of terrorism, I also believe what happened in Germany can also be reasonably described as an act of terrorism. But it's still way too early to form a solid opinion about this one incident IMO.

    This site is quite different than AWE and I do miss some of the banter. Didn't you think AWE was becoming a bit of a train wreck? The level of prejudice against other posters race and religion was getting out of hand. I had over 40 people on my ignore list.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It would only be a non sequitur if the two events were entirely unrelated. They are not, so it is not.
    They are not. You just want to make the argument that the boys' death justifies the shooting in Germany. It's fine if you believe that, just don't expect me to then believe your claims of how "regrettable" (what a ****ing tepid sentiment anyway) you find the deaths of the airmen if you believe it was justified in the first place.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Likewise. Not sure how long I'm going to last though. I miss the craziness that permeated AWE. That was its charm and it's not tolerated here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Mars View Post
    This site is quite different than AWE and I do miss some of the banter. Didn't you think AWE was becoming a bit of a train wreck? The level of prejudice against other posters race and religion was getting out of hand. I had over 40 people on my ignore list.
    You can say what you like here, just not everywhere. I'm guessing you guys haven't been to the Basement yet.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You can say what you like here, just not everywhere. I'm guessing you guys haven't been to the Basement yet.
    Trust me, even the Basement would not tolerate the kinds of things said at AWE. There was a lot of anti-Semitism there.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well there is a degree of mitigation on both sides, no? The soldiers killed in Germany, if you accept that there is a state of war existing between radical Islam and the West, were legitimate targets, were they not? It doesn't make their deaths any less regrettable, nor does the fact that the Afghan boys were killed deliberately, but in error, make their deaths any less regrettable.

    What is totally regrettable is this state of war, and I'm not seeing anyone on either side trying to resolve it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
    If he was acting as a jihadi actively engaged in their latest war then I would agree this could definitely be described as an act of war.

    We are not talking about regret. We are talking about intent.

    Islamic jihadis are deliberately and intentionally targeting innocent children.

    And I do see people on both sides trying to end this latest jihadi killing spree. There are Muslims who have spoken out against it and there are free nations around the world willing to sacrifice their blood and treasure to fight and defeat them.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You can say what you like here, just not everywhere. I'm guessing you guys haven't been to the Basement yet.
    No, I haven't. I kind of like the 'air' of this site. A much higher caliber of average poster here than at AWE.
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    Re: Two U.S. Soldiers Reportedly Killed in Shooting at Germany's Frankfurt Airport

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Trust me, even the Basement would not tolerate the kinds of things said at AWE. There was a lot of anti-Semitism there.
    Not just anti-Semitic. Race, religion, national origin or what someone looked like was fair game for personal attacks at AWE.

    I had so many people on my ignore list it made me ask myself if I should stay there or not.
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