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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    But the problem there is that many Americans don't believe that. But here is an ATF guy saying he was told to allow for guns to be trafficked down to Mexico:




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    That's quite a shocking report. At what point are the ATF going to stop 'tracking' the shipment of arms and start preventing it?
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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    There are two fundamental problems here, IMO:

    1. We do not have control of our borders, and who or what crosses same.

    2. Mexico does not have an effective government capable of exercising a reasonable degree of control and providing a reasonable degree of security and order to its citizens.

    We may not be able to do anything about #2, but we could darn sure fix #1 if we really wanted to.

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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's quite a shocking report. At what point are the ATF going to stop 'tracking' the shipment of arms and start preventing it?
    Its not likely to stop tracking or preventing it. I really do believe that the American's are just saying. As long as it does not hurt us it is none of our business.

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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    There are two fundamental problems here, IMO:

    1. We do not have control of our borders, and who or what crosses same.

    2. Mexico does not have an effective government capable of exercising a reasonable degree of control and providing a reasonable degree of security and order to its citizens.

    We may not be able to do anything about #2, but we could darn sure fix #1 if we really wanted to.
    So, why doesn't it happen? Instead of Arizona instituting draconian laws against immigrants once they are there, why not divert resources to securing the border - in both directions?
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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Its not likely to stop tracking or preventing it.
    sure it will. simple supply and demand. raise the price of narco-terrorism in units of narco-terrorist blood, and watch supply fall.

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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    And, in addition to tightening up border controls to prevent illegal immigrants crossing from south to north, start cracking down on shipments of illegal arms crossing from north to south. I believe most of the cartels' arms are coming from the US.
    no, that figure turned out to be that 90% of the arms returned to the US by the mexican police had actually originated here. when you are talking about actual weaponry (assault rifles, explosives, etc) the flow is the other way. i've been tempted myself to try to procure a LAW and some det cord, but frankly i don't have a house yet, and the risks of engaging with those guys simply isn't worth it.

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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, that figure turned out to be that 90% of the arms returned to the US by the mexican police had actually originated here. when you are talking about actual weaponry (assault rifles, explosives, etc) the flow is the other way. i've been tempted myself to try to procure a LAW and some det cord, but frankly i don't have a house yet, and the risks of engaging with those guys simply isn't worth it.
    Do you have some evidence of that? What do you make of the CBS report above?

    And what is 'procuring a LAW'? And 'some det cord'? A bit too much jargon for me, I'm afraid.
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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    sure it will. simple supply and demand. raise the price of narco-terrorism in units of narco-terrorist blood, and watch supply fall.
    But the problem you get with that is that the drug interdiction agents get paid far less than the narco-terrorists.

    So what happens is that the drug interdiction agents take out the narco-terrorists, but then become narco-terrorists themselves in order to get paid better.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Do you have some evidence of that? What do you make of the CBS report above?

    And what is 'procuring a LAW'? And 'some det cord'? A bit too much jargon for me, I'm afraid.
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    Re: Young man confronts Zeta Cartel and kills two of them

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Probably has something to do with the fact he is European. They don't have access to weapons

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