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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

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    Define "right" and tell me where it appears in either the state or nations constitutions.


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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

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    go to 5 United States Code and read chapter 71
    to make it easy for them

    United States Code: Title 5,SUBCHAPTER II—RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF AGENCIES AND LABOR ORGANIZATIONS | LII / Legal Information Institute
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    If the state is in breach of contract, why are there protests and not lawsuits?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the state is in breach of contract, why are there protests and not lawsuits?
    there is litigation. an unfair labor practice charge has been filed for the state's failure to bargain in good faith on these matters
    instead the state wants to deprive the state employees of the right to collectively bargain
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    thanks. can't wait to see what our resident "labor lawyer" makes of it
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In many of the 842 threads on this topic the same questions has come up again and again and has been answered again and again.

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    Just as I thought. It really isn't a "right" but rather actually an executive order under JFK that brought us to this point. To claim it as a "right" shows how little liberals actually understand about rights.

    Just remember, what government giveth government taketh away.


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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    go to 5 United States Code and read chapter 71
    Laws change. laws are not rights.


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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    While the United States Constitution's First Amendment identifies the rights to assemble and to petition the government, the text of the First Amendment does not make specific mention of a right to association. Nevertheless, the United States Supreme Court held in NAACP v. Alabama that the freedom of association is an essential part of the Freedom of Speech because, in many cases, people can engage in effective speech only when they join with others

    Nothing Wisconsin is doing will end an individualís right to associate with who they choose, or to petition the government.

    In fact, this strengthens it. Individuals will get to decide if they want to associate with the union, ending the public sector monopoly on collective bargaining.

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Laws change. laws are not rights.


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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You were provided links to rights.


    And you clearly don't understand what makes up a "right".


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