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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

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    Is the AFL -CIO still effective? according to some, the leading union organizations haven't been doing their job. Just the opposite, the unions continue to make demands and trade off the benefits and wages ...

    "He is also demanding the ending of any form of collective bargaining, even in the ineffectual and cowardly form in which it is practiced by the existing trade unions. For Walker—and the sections of the capitalist class for which he speaks—the central target is not simply the trade unions. His real aim is to wipe out any form or possibility of organized resistance by the working class to the dictates of the financial-corporate oligarchy and the capitalist state."

    "The response to this attack by the trade union organizations in Wisconsin and nationally—AFSCME, the NEA and the AFL-CIO—is cowardly, duplicitous and politically bankrupt. From the outset, they act as if there is no connection between Walker’s assault on the organizational interests of the union—such as his demand for the elimination of collective bargaining and the end of the automatic dues check off—and the attack on the wages"
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    Is it not amazing that so many are so dumb that they think you can spned your way out of debt and ignore reality.

    Liberals have a way of pretending their fantasy world is real as they ax and spend us into the toilet then blame conservatives for their ignorance.\

    Unions have got to go.
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    I just LOVE how democrats are making it look like the evil corporations are out to destroy the middle class. HA!!! Its the freakin UNIONS that are part of the problem erroding the middle class by sucking up the TAX PAYERS money! The unions are hurting everyone!
    Hey I dont even know upper middle management that has such sweet deals as 100% paid health care.... HUGE pensions.... and a salary that is 2x what they should be getting!!!! PLUS...... PLUUUUUS teachers get 3 months off and its in the summer!!! And its not like good teachers are hard to find either. Heck I would say 2 out of 10 parents would make excellent teachers.

    DESTROY STATE UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So you're jealous because you didn't get a masters degree. Boo friggin hoo!

    Go to college you couch potato and then whine. Stop listening to those dullards Jon and Ken.

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How's that hope and change working out? Seems the people are running as fast as they can away from it...

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    Why do you ALWAYS say things with your tounge sticking out? It doesnt make a point. It doesnt sway. It DOESNT make you look good. It doesnt sound cool or intelligent either. Look we are on the same side on this topic but I rather you NOT make comments like that. It actually creates loathing for folks on our side and its not appreciated.
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    So you're jealous because you didn't get a masters degree. Boo friggin hoo!

    Go to college you couch potato and then whine. Stop listening to those dullards Jon and Ken.
    HUH!?!? Masters degree? Jon and Ken? Who in the heck are THEY!? And... masters degree??? How is that relevant to anything I said or even this topic? And jealous? Because Americans like myself are getting taxed heavily to pay for state union workers? Im talking about the topic at hand and you just told me my pants dont fit. Great way to discuss the topic man
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    HUH!?!? Masters degree? Jon and Ken? Who in the heck are THEY!? And... masters degree??? How is that relevant to anything I said or even this topic? And jealous? Because Americans like myself are getting taxed heavily to pay for state union workers? Im talking about the topic at hand and you just told me my pants dont fit. Great way to discuss the topic man
    Why don't the right wing ever talk about big business shenanigans, then?

    "Demonstrators took over branches of Barclays across the UK after it emerged it paid just 113m in corporation tax in 2009, only one per cent of its 11.6bn profits."

    Protesters and Osborne agree over bank taxes - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

    'Most U.S. and foreign corporations doing business in the United States avoid paying any federal income taxes, despite trillions of dollars worth of sales, a government study released on Tuesday said."

    'The Government Accountability Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005."

    "More than half of foreign companies and about 42 percent of U.S. companies paid no U.S. income taxes for two or more years in that period, the report said."

    Study says most corporations pay no U.S. income taxes | Reuters
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    union should prevail in its filed Unfair Labor Practice charge, establishing that the party to the contract, the state of wisconsin, has not lived up to its obligation to negotiate in good faith
    There is no obligation to negotiate under duress of Mob Coercion. You lose.

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    PFFF. Purely useless comment ...^

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    There is no obligation to negotiate under duress of Mob Coercion. You lose.
    are you wanting us to believe that an assembly of citizens opposed to collective bargaining gives basis for the state to unilaterally abbrogate the very contract it has entered into?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Why don't the right wing ever talk about big business shenanigans, then?

    "Demonstrators took over branches of Barclays across the UK after it emerged it paid just 113m in corporation tax in 2009, only one per cent of its 11.6bn profits."

    Protesters and Osborne agree over bank taxes - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

    'Most U.S. and foreign corporations doing business in the United States avoid paying any federal income taxes, despite trillions of dollars worth of sales, a government study released on Tuesday said."

    'The Government Accountability Office said 72 percent of all foreign corporations and about 57 percent of U.S. companies doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes for at least one year between 1998 and 2005."

    "More than half of foreign companies and about 42 percent of U.S. companies paid no U.S. income taxes for two or more years in that period, the report said."

    Study says most corporations pay no U.S. income taxes | Reuters
    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    PFFF. Purely useless comment ...^
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    are you wanting us to believe that an assembly of citizens opposed to collective bargaining gives basis for the state to unilaterally abbrogate the very contract it has entered into?
    What contract is being unilaterally abrogated? Which one? Link please. Contracts have expiration dates. Don't be silly.
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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Uh check your history
    In 1999 we America had a surplus not much but a surplus.
    In 2000 the Republicans took control in 2008 after the Republicans left America was 3 trillion dollars in debt.
    Just in case you don't know the differance between fantasy and reality.

    Surplus have money
    Debt owe money.
    Let me put this another way:

    In 1999, we had a small surplus because Republicans took over Congress five years earlier and reigned in spending.

    In 2008, we had a huge deficit after Dems took over Congress only two years earlier and spent money like drunken sailors.

    Seems to me there is a correlation...

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    Re: Wisconsin governor gives Democrats ultimatum

    Sorry to tell you this, but federal law does NOT apply to employees of state and local governments.
    United States labor law is a heterogeneous collection of state and federal laws. Federal law not only sets the standards that govern workers' rights to organize in the private sector, but overrides most state and local laws that attempt to regulate this area. Federal law also provides more limited rights for employees of the federal government. These federal laws do not, on the other hand, apply to employees of state and local governments, agricultural workers or domestic employees; any statutory protections those workers have derived from state law.
    United States labor law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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