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Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

ludahai said:
Private money, they have the right to create their own scholarships just as anyone else does.
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agree completely with this. I still would prefer it was merit based (in an ideal situation), either that or I wish that there was more private money investing in scholarships for white males when I was looking for them :2razz:.
I am kind of split on this issue, I feel strongly that merit based would be the ideal way to go; however this contradicts with the liberty that should be due to privately funded scholarships to be able to say "it is our money, so this is what I determine it goes for" even if it was for transvestite midgets native to Tonga with 6 fingers.
 
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marduc said:
agree completely with this. I still would prefer it was merit based however, either that or I wish that there was more private money investing in scholarships for white males when I was looking for them. I am kind of split on this issue, I feel strongly that merit based would be the ideal way to go; however this contradicts with the liberty that should be due to privately funded scholarships to be able to say "it is our money, so this is what I determine it goes for" even if it was for transvestite midgets native to Tonga with 6 fingers.
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It can be both. I received two scholarships. One was a full-ride athletic scholarship. The other was from a local Franco-American society. It was given to five Franco-American high school graduates in my home town every year who displayed outstanding academic leadership. Franco-Americans in my hometown were generally economically disadvantaged compared to other groups in my home town and this was an effort to give some assistance to QUALIFIED students of our ethnicity...
 
ludahai said:
It can be both. I received two scholarships. One was a full-ride athletic scholarship. The other was from a local Franco-American society. It was given to five Franco-American high school graduates in my home town every year who displayed outstanding academic leadership. Franco-Americans in my hometown were generally economically disadvantaged compared to other groups in my home town and this was an effort to give some assistance to QUALIFIED students of our ethnicity...
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I was able to get a few academic scholarships, but as an adoptee who had no way of showing I was of any descent other than a generic "whiteness" that was the extent of it.

edit: I was half tempted to try to find my birth family when I was scholarship hunting, just to see if I could find a few drops of native American blood from a great grandmother or something :)
 
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marduc said:
I was able to get a few academic scholarships, but as an adoptee who had no way of showing I was of any descent other than a generic "whiteness" that was the extent of it.

edit: I was half tempted to try to find my birth family when I was scholarship hunting, just to see if I could find a few drops of native American blood from a great grandmother or something :)
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I have Canadian First Nations blood, but I felt it disingenuous to apply for those. I consider myself Franco-American, so I had no qualms about accepting that scholarship (no application was necessary)...
 
Now if we can only get a Congressional White Caucus..........

........and really highlight the hypocrisy and racism that is The Democrat Party.
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apdst said:
That's not true, unless you're talking about one minority discriminating against another minority. As much black on white discrimination as I've seen in my life, I've seen even more black on hispanic and black on asian discrimination.
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You're making an assumption based on your one small perception? Limited experiences should not be used to make such general claims. Whites are still the majority in this country and they still hold the keys to the vault.

Historically, minorities have always been at a disadvantage whether it's socio economic means, quality of education, discrimination in hiring practices, unfair treatment, social discrimination, etc. If you want to reap the "benefits" of being a minority, feel free to move to any country where you'll be a part of the "minority".
 
StillBallin75 said:
I don't always agree with you Barb, but I appreciate the honesty and attempt at finding out the truth.
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I do too! One of the good things about forums like this is that in one way or another, all of us discover things that we did not know.
 
Badmutha said:
Now if we can only get a Congressional White Caucus..........

........and really highlight the hypocrisy and racism that is The Democrat Party.
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I already suggested that earlier. I think it would be hilarious.

Oh well, it's funny enough that Conservative Alan West said he's going to join the Black Caucas. I think all of them are Socialist/Progressives. Whatever will they talk about with him in the room. :)
 
Animus said:
You're making an assumption based on your one small perception? Limited experiences should not be used to make such general claims. Whites are still the majority in this country and they still hold the keys to the vault.

Historically, minorities have always been at a disadvantage whether it's socio economic means, quality of education, discrimination in hiring practices, unfair treatment, social discrimination, etc. If you want to reap the "benefits" of being a minority, feel free to move to any country where you'll be a part of the "minority".
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Apdst is right to a certain degree. Many minorities including Asians and Latinos hold more negative views on blacks than the average white, while possessing more favorable views towards whites in general compared to the rest of the population. It's been documented in sociological research.
 
Barbbtx said:
I already suggested that earlier. I think it would be hilarious.

Oh well, it's funny enough that Conservative Alan West said he's going to join the Black Caucas. I think all of them are Socialist/Progressives. Whatever will they talk about with him in the room. :)
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Probably neo-soul :D
 
DiAnna said:
I do too! One of the good things about forums like this is that in one way or another, all of us discover things that we did not know.
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I tried to give you a "like" but your button didn't work. Sorry
 
I don't have much of a problem with this since there are already a lot of race-based scholarships out there. I don't much agree with perpetuating scholarships to be this way, but at least it is bringing up discussion.

One suggestion I would make on making scholarships more fair would be to include school opportunities that a person had in comparison to what their academic record is, instead of just on what they did alone. Economic need and merit is always important, but if someone is unable to get certain classes because those classes aren't available then it isn't fair to compare them with people who were able to get such classes. This could keep race or sex out of the decisions, but still help to make up for those places where, due to economic conditions of the area, some do not have the same opportunities as others who live in more prosperous areas, but have similar income levels of the first person. It would keep race out of it because a white guy from the same school as a black guy who both come from the same economic level will actually be competing for the scholarship based just on their performance instead of on their skin color. Afterall, black or white or Hispanic or Asian, a person who goes to a failing school got a crappy deal and needs help to get to college, no matter what their skin color.
 
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ludahai said:
There are white people who need help more than many Blacks do. There ARE traditionally underprivileged White ethnic groups.
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Sure. But as a group, they are not. As I said, perhaps race-based scholarships for underprivileged minority groups are not the best way to serve society, but at least those groups ARE underprivileged. And at least the people providing the scholarships mean well.

ludahai said:
Private money, they have the right to create their own scholarships just as anyone else does.
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I didn't say they should be thrown in prison for doing it. I said they're Grade-A douchenozzles. Which they are.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
Apdst is right to a certain degree. Many minorities including Asians and Latinos hold more negative views on blacks than the average white, while possessing more favorable views towards whites in general compared to the rest of the population. It's been documented in sociological research.
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Asians and Latinos do not hold alot of social or economic power in America so it makes little difference. Whether or not minorities discriminate against each other more than whites is another discussion entirely and has no relevance to the topic at hand. "But they do it more than us!" is not a good rebuke.
 
Animus said:
Minorities are more likely to get discriminated on a day to day basis.
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..and they do it to each other. I get the same **** from scumbag Pat Buchanan conservative whites and ghetto trash black liberals. In the fact that I took their job and Im an illegal alien communist.

Ultra Orthadox jews wont deal with Hispanics at all. In their social system is 1. White Male, 2. White Female, 3. Black Male, 4. Black Female. Arabs, Hispanics and Asians are considered 2nd class or non-persons in their view. I threw one out of my store about a week ago because in his words doesn't talk with dirty spics.

There are already a ton of scholarships and grants that are need based which I think is the most important.
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Bull****, people wanna create their own race based scholarships, fine but to say that they're needed is BS. Instead of scholarships, its beyond time to discuss why college tuition is so high and what to do about it. I went to Syracuse without any help from anyone else other than my parents.
 
Kandahar said:
Sure. But as a group, they are not. As I said, perhaps race-based scholarships for underprivileged minority groups are not the best way to serve society, but at least those groups ARE underprivileged. And at least the people providing the scholarships mean well.
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So you think there aren't any white ethnic groups that aren't underprivileged?



I didn't say they should be thrown in prison for doing it. I said they're Grade-A douchenozzles. Which they are.
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I disagree. There are underprivileged white people who need assistance as well. What would you say about my ethnic-based scholarship, then?
 
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ludahai said:
So you think there aren't any white ethnic groups that aren't underprivileged?
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There are some individual underprivileged whites. But whites, as a group, are not.

ludahai said:
I disagree. There are underprivileged white people who need assistance as well.
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The only people that offer a scholarship exclusively to white people are one of two things: 1) white supremacists, or 2) people trying to make the incredibly douchey political statement that minorities have it easy in this country, and whites have it rough. In either case, they're douchenozzles. Whereas that's not the case with minority scholarships. You also have 3) people who mean well and want to help an underprivileged group of people.
 
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Hatuey said:
I wonder how many conservatives complain about 'Italian-American scholarships'. It always seems to be bitching about black people having scholarships for black people.
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We tend to bitch about providing scholarships and admission based on anything but merit. Got it? If a private entity wants to target scholarships in any way... fine. Operative word is "private". If a school is private they can do what they want. If they get government funds, then the law of the land should apply. No discrimination based on gender or race.

Jayson Blair and the Tragedy of Affirmative Action by William L. Anderson

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I would also issue whites as a group do not 'need' an ethnic scholarship. They are just as eligible for academic merit scholarships. Perhaps they perceive some sortof pervasive diskkrimination against them.

I guess they have the right to do whatever they want though. Strange.
 
SE102 said:
I would also issue whites as a group do not 'need' an ethnic scholarship. They are just as eligible for academic merit scholarships. Perhaps they perceive some sortof pervasive diskkrimination against them.

I guess they have the right to do whatever they want though. Strange.
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Are you implying that Blacks can't get merit scholarships and thus need racial based scholarships???
 
StillBallin75 said:
I'm generalizing, but on average they also have access to better schools and more likely to benefit from such things as legacy, advanced tracking, and AP courses which are all a plus when applying for college. However it is true that affirmative action today benefits white females more than any other group.
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Do not Generalze a group. Everything should be taken on individual bases. Being White I came from a poor family and had none of that stuff that you mention.
 
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