Thread: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

Originally Posted by OscarB63

amen brother. too bad all minority dudes couldn't be more like you.

Black folks are waking up, everyday. I talk to more and more of them that feel that since Obama didn't deliver on the big payoff, that they'll just have to get off their asses and do it for themselves.

Originally Posted by apdst

Black folks are waking up, everyday. I talk to more and more of them that feel that since Obama didn't deliver on the big payoff, that they'll just have to get off their asses and do it for themselves.

One thing that bill cosby was 100% correct on is that people need to provide for themselves primarily

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

Pointing out a logical fallacy, just because you can name the exceptions to the rule doesn't mean the rule doesn't still exist. There is still a great degree of discrimination in the system but I believe that on the whole things are getting much better.

As for the Asian immigrants, using myself as a personal example, I've been fortunate and rather privileged because my parents benefitted from a system of universal higher education in Taiwan, and came to this country to attend graduate school. In terms of East Asians (Orientials, your Koreans Chinese and Japanese) most the immigrants who arrived in this country were the ones who were at least well off enough to get the hell out of their home countries, and their backgrounds can't be compared to urban blacks or Latinos. In this country, darker skinned southeast Asians, many of whom are refugees, don't do as well as the aforementioned because they face greater challenges and arrived with lesser resources and have to build up wealth over time. So even with the Asian-American community there are drastic differences in socioeconomic backgrounds.

It is true today that many leaving Taiwan are of the more affluent variety (then again, Taiwan is a far more affluent society today than it was thirty years ago). However, in the past, many Asians (including Taiwanese and Chinese) immigrated to the US with very little. They would live in small residences, sometimes more than one family in the same place, and WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF so their children could get a good education. It is a cultural thing. Taiwanese take education seriously and know this is a way to succeed. Some black families do as well, and they are to be commended. However, I have worked in schools with large Black populations and it is not an exaggeration to say that on the whole they were far lazier about their schoolwork than whites or Asians (be they East Asians or South Asians).

Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker

Well if you think it was a long ass time ago - then why havent' we *all* recovered? We still have extreme issues with racism.

You want them to accept responsibility for their own situation.
And I want you to realize that we helped create their situation that they're suppose to be fixing.

Why is it so offensive to you that we work with them to fix things?

The people who have an, "extreme issue with racism", are the folks that claim to oppose racism the most, but do the most to keep it alive.

Libbos are like, "oh, look them poor little bur-heads! If it wasn't for me, they wouldn't have a snowman's chance in hell at making it in the real world; they're just so stupid and runned-down because of slavery and Jim Crow...". That whole mindset is offensive.

Originally Posted by megaprogman

One thing that bill cosby was 100% correct on is that people need to provide for themselves primarily

Absolutely right and he was villified too all hell when he said that, too. The sad part, is that the people doing most of the villifieing were white Libbos and the so called leaders of the black community.

Originally Posted by ludahai

It is true today that many leaving Taiwan are of the more affluent variety (then again, Taiwan is a far more affluent society today than it was thirty years ago). However, in the past, many Asians (including Taiwanese and Chinese) immigrated to the US with very little. They would live in small residences, sometimes more than one family in the same place, and WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF so their children could get a good education. It is a cultural thing. Taiwanese take education seriously and know this is a way to succeed. Some black families do as well, and they are to be commended. However, I have worked in schools with large Black populations and it is not an exaggeration to say that on the whole they were far lazier about their schoolwork than whites or Asians (be they East Asians or South Asians).

Parenting is a big part of it, really.

Originally Posted by apdst

Forever, I'm afraid.

Fear not! I'm the ggg-grandson of two slaves and I'm not going to let slavery hold me back!

Personally, I'm kinda glad for slavery in America, because my ancestors's sacrifice allowed me to live in the greatest country in the history of man. There's no way that I would have the same oppurtunities in Africa, that I do here in the United States.

dude, I have been saying the same thing for decades. nearly every black person living in the US today owes a debt of gratitude for slavery. if their ancestors hadn't suffered they either wouldn't be here or wouldn't exist at all.

Originally Posted by apdst

The people who have an, "extreme issue with racism", are the folks that claim to oppose racism the most, but do the most to keep it alive.

Libbos are like, "oh, look them poor little bur-heads! If it wasn't for me, they wouldn't have a snowman's chance in hell at making it in the real world; they're just so stupid and runned-down because of slavery and Jim Crow...". That whole mindset is offensive.

Where did you just wander off with that?

I don't think it's a liberal or conservative view to recognize the actual nature of the situation - see that our nation's attitudes and decisions in the past is responsible for part of it - and then try to improve things *with them* - it's not political at all. (Well - it's not for me).

Isn't that what America is suppose to be about: if we have issues as a nation we work together to fix it?

Supposedly that's what the loved 1950's were all about: everyone was happy to work and do their part to improve things, society - for everyone.

I see problems in our country and I would like them to be fixed - regardless of who's democrat or who's a baptist.

I see it this way: "Our government created or abided by the values and laws that created a situation" - "they resended those laws and some of those values - and need to continue to resend to dissolve the problem they've created"

Just like the broken SSA and the messed up 'Agencies in government' fiasco - It's a government-started problem. . . the government needs to fix it.

Originally Posted by apdst

The people who have an, "extreme issue with racism", are the folks that claim to oppose racism the most, but do the most to keep it alive.

Libbos are like, "oh, look them poor little bur-heads! If it wasn't for me, they wouldn't have a snowman's chance in hell at making it in the real world; they're just so stupid and runned-down because of slavery and Jim Crow...". That whole mindset is offensive.

which is why black guys like you are vilified by the libbos. they can't stand the fact that you don't "need" them to take care of you

Originally Posted by OscarB63

which is why black guys like you are vilified by the libbos. they can't stand the fact that you don't "need" them to take care of you

Nope, he is pretty much villified for the terrible quality of his reasoning skills. Heck, did anybody know he was black until this thread?