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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Culture, huh? Let's back up one step further then: If all races have equality of opportunity, what is your explanation for why some have cultures that discourage productive behavior and others don't? Genetic inferiority?

    Keep going, you're on a roll today. Don't worry, I won't "blame whitey." Far be it from me to call you a racist piece of ****.

    If the system is so biased against minorities, why do the asian immigrants do so well? why do we have a black president? why do we have high ranking black military officers? why do we have black members of congress? why are there black CEOs?

    if the system is so "unfair" to minorities, how do you explain all the successful minorities?
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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    If the system is so biased against minorities, why do the asian immigrants do so well? why do we have a black president? why do we have high ranking black military officers? why do we have black members of congress? why are there black CEOs?

    if the system is so "unfair" to minorities, how do you explain all the successful minorities?
    Pointing out a logical fallacy, just because you can name the exceptions to the rule doesn't mean the rule doesn't still exist. There is still a great degree of discrimination in the system but I believe that on the whole things are getting much better.

    As for the Asian immigrants, using myself as a personal example, I've been fortunate and rather privileged because my parents benefitted from a system of universal higher education in Taiwan, and came to this country to attend graduate school. In terms of East Asians (Orientials, your Koreans Chinese and Japanese) most the immigrants who arrived in this country were the ones who were at least well off enough to get the hell out of their home countries, and their backgrounds can't be compared to urban blacks or Latinos. In this country, darker skinned southeast Asians, many of whom are refugees, don't do as well as the aforementioned because they face greater challenges and arrived with lesser resources and have to build up wealth over time. So even with the Asian-American community there are drastic differences in socioeconomic backgrounds.

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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    There is still a great degree of discrimination in the system but I believe that on the whole things are getting much better.
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    you know, I keep hearing this, but no one can ever prove it. some people insist on acting like this is still 1950.
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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    list some and be specific. I am always hearing about this "white privilege" but no one ever seems to give any details. It's always a vague, generalized blanket statement "you've benefitted from being white"

    maybe those born rich have benefitted from being white, but tell some white kid born in a trailer park to a welfare mom how much he benefitted from being white.

    it much more "rich privilege" than it is about being white.
    It's majority wise.

    Whites are more likely to be born into a middle-class or upper-class family.
    White men, on average, are paid more.
    Whites have a few less health issues that do discern between the races.
    and some studies have been done that show that whites are more likely to be influenced (negatively) by racial stereotypes even if they believe they're not racist.

    and so on.

    Most of this is because whites are the vast majority in the US.
    But other things have to do with the after effects of slavery and segregation - and so forth.

    It's a lengthy subject. I, being white female, don't "feel" this is true, either - but study after study - done for various purposes - shows it *is* true.

    Concerning blacks specifically - you can't deny that we (whites) made their world *more* complicated and even after slavery continued to pit things against them - in essence, "we denied them food and then hated them because they were skinny"

    "Separate but equal" my ass - My kid's went to a segretation-day elementary school - it didn't even have walls for the classrooms, just portable dividers like in an office building. . . and that was the norm not too long ago in our country.

    It's as if they were thrown down into a pit and then called lazy for not climbing out quickly enough.
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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you know, I keep hearing this, but no one can ever prove it. some people insist on acting like this is still 1950.
    No one can prove it? There's tons of sociological data to support it. You're already online, why don't you do some of your own research? You're right, it's not 1950, people aren't getting lynched and don't have to go to separate bathrooms or the back of the bus, but let's not act like our society is colorblind because it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    No one can prove it? There's tons of sociological data to support it. You're already online, why don't you do some of your own research? You're right, it's not 1950, people aren't getting lynched and don't have to go to separate bathrooms or the back of the bus, but let's not act like our society is colorblind because it's not.
    and let's not act like there aren't plenty of opportunities for minorities out there if they choose to take advantage of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and let's not act like there aren't plenty of opportunities for minorities out there if they choose to take advantage of them.
    I haven't claimed otherwise.

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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I haven't claimed otherwise.
    point is, there are way too many successful minorities for the rest of them to use the cry "the system isn't fair" to excuse their lack of success.

    a poor black kid in the housing project has the same opportunity as a poor white kid in a trailer park.
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    a poor black kid in the housing project has the same opportunity as a poor white kid in a trailer park.
    Not when **** like this happens:

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    Re: Texas Group Will Offer Scholarships To White Men Only

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    so now it's the employer's fault because momma named her kid shanaynay? hell, when I was teaching public school I had a kid in homeroom one year named "Shithead" it was pronounced "Sha theed"


    ever try getting a job if your name is bambi? or summer? or jimbob or any of a wide variety of other redneck or bimbo names?


    little Sambo has the same opportunity as little Billy Bob or little Qui Chang


    keep em coming. for every example of discrimination against a minority you can dig up, I can come up with an example of where the same discrimination takes place against whitey.




    the system isn't fair...but it isn't fair for everybody.
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