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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Alright, that's fair. They most certainly were not fighting for the Brits or Americans. But they were fighting with the Brits and Americans, something people like apdst find hard to swallow.
    I have no problem with the fact that we were fighting the same enemy and all parties involved made vital contributions to the war effort.

    However, your anti-Americanism DOES bother me and your statement about the Guandong Army and the Soviet role there was simply inaccurate...
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is that so hard for me to accept? I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary. All I ever said, is that the Soviets--nor the Brits--decided the outcome of WW2, all by themselves. If not for American involvement, you would have lost your asses.
    I hate to agree with apdst, but he's on the money here. Other allies may have sacrificed more and done a lot of the heavy lifting, but without US involvement in WWII, and in both the European and Pacific Theaters, the Allies would have been toast.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    That's simply not true. It's wishful thinking, from a wishful nation. You're like teenagers. You think you're the best, invincible, and you think you've got fresh new ideas and a glorious past. You think you're the centre of the world. You're really not, and some day, you, as a nation, will grow up and realise that. When you do, we'll all be at the adult table waiting for you.
    We kicked the **** out of the Brits and the Russians. I'd say we're some purdy bad ass mother****ers.
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We trained'em, we armed'em, so through our military prowess and superior weapons systems, we killed the **** out of some Soviets.



    It's a point I'm trying to make, but it's also that I take delight in the deaths of any mother****ers that threaten my country and my people. My people are the American people, regardless of their race, color, religion, creed, or national origin.
    Does that group include liberals?

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We kicked the **** out of the Brits and the Russians. I'd say we're some purdy bad ass mother****ers.
    When did you kick the **** out of the Brits? The French won your War of Independence for you, and you lost the War of 1812. The only time Americans fought Soviet troops was in the intervention in the Russian Civil War, and the Americans got their asses handed to them there.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Dear god, as a bit of a history boff i can tell you that both marteau and apdst have some funny ideas about what happened in WW2...

    Ive decided though that all this revisionist history is far too entertaining to start debunking!

    Onward!

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    When did you kick the **** out of the Brits? The French won your War of Independence for you, and you lost the War of 1812. The only time Americans fought Soviet troops was in the intervention in the Russian Civil War, and the Americans got their asses handed to them there.
    The French? LOL! Hell they lost to themselves!


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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The French? LOL! Hell they lost to themselves!


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    Actually a big reason they lost was because they made an ill fated decision not defend a section of their border because they felt the germans would be unable to move tanks through...

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    When did you kick the **** out of the Brits? The French won your War of Independence for you, and you lost the War of 1812. The only time Americans fought Soviet troops was in the intervention in the Russian Civil War, and the Americans got their asses handed to them there.
    Huh??? French troops were on the ground? The French Navy DID help cut off the British retreat, but the U.S. troops won the war on the ground...

    And the War of 1812 was essentially a draw with both sides agreeing to return to the status quo ante at the end of the war and the U.S. essentially being successful in ending British harassment of settlers in the northwest territories...
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I hate to agree with apdst, but he's on the money here. Other allies may have sacrificed more and done a lot of the heavy lifting, but without US involvement in WWII, and in both the European and Pacific Theaters, the Allies would have been toast.
    Not as simple as that. Britain would have been a experienced economic conflict moreso than military after the BoB and Russians (not necessarily Soviets) are pretty much indominable in their homeland. I've never seen how even a military defeat on both fronts could have led to a Nazi empire sustaining itself for any reasonable amount of time. The real minimisation of cost to Europe by American intervention was the devastation of minority communities and any vestige of power they had in their colonies.

    I'm afraid no one would be speaking german other than where they are if the States weren't involved, but the cost to anything vaguely un-aryan would be too great to bear if they weren't.

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