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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Mainly the balkans where i learned a particular disgust for the un and its "peacekeepers". I was declared "persona non gratis" on at least one occassion for taking exception to thier proclivity for Underage brothels. I remained per contract.
    Interesting -- I was in the Balkans with the Royal Marines. What years? What zones, if you don't mind disclosing?

    As well, I'll admit that the UN peacekeepers in the Balkans were often Serb or Bosnian or Croat, and so partisan by nature. But it was an ugly war, and in ugly wars, I believe there are more pressing problems to deal with than brothels. Not to condone their actions, though.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Alright, the last sentence has confirmed to me that you're just trolling. But I'll nibble. Not quite bite, but I'll nibble.

    80% of all Axis casualties (not just Germans, not just European Theatre, but ALL Axis forces) were from the Eastern Front, where the only army opposing the Wehrmacht was the Red Army.

    As well, the Soviets were in the Pacific, where they routed the Japanese Kwantung Army, which, I might add, accounted for 65% of all Japanese military personnel.


    Furthermore, North Africa, Italy and Normandy were all majorty British or Commonwealth troops.


    There's no disputing this, mate. The British Empire and the Soviet Union won the Second World War. Other countries contributed, and we honour them for their contribution. But they dare not take the credit, because it isn't deserved.
    I think American units deserve a great deal of credit for what they did during World War II. But Le Marteau is right when he says that the Red Army deserves the most credit for destroying the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Interesting -- I was in the Balkans with the Royal Marines. What years? What zones, if you don't mind disclosing?

    As well, I'll admit that the UN peacekeepers in the Balkans were often Serb or Bosnian or Croat, and so partisan by nature. But it was an ugly war, and in ugly wars, I believe there are more pressing problems to deal with than brothels. Not to condone their actions, though.
    I was in the Balkans in '99 with 1/26th INF.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I was in the Balkans in '99 with 1/26th INF.
    Huh. I actually met a 1/26th Infantry soldier while there. He was a Mexican guy, tattooed, which I found shocking, as it's against regulation in the Royal Marines to have tattooes showing.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think American units deserve a great deal of credit for what they did during World War II. But Le Marteau is right when he says that the Red Army deserves the most credit for destroying the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front.
    That's why Stalin was practically begging us to invade France and open a second front? Because he was winning, hands down?

    No, that's not why.

    In November, 1943, Joseph Stalin, Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt met together in Teheran, Iran, to discuss military strategy and post-war Europe. Ever since the Soviet Union had entered the war, Stalin had been demanding that the Allies open-up a second front in Europe. Churchill and Roosevelt argued that any attempt to land troops in Western Europe would result in heavy casualties. Until the Soviet's victory at Stalingrad in January, 1943, Stalin had feared that without a second front, Germany would defeat them.

    Second Front
    In reality, Stalin had been begging for a second front since 1941.

    As early as July 1941 a mortally threatened Soviet Union was calling for a "second front"--an Anglo-American invasion of Europe across the English Channel. The appeal was sufficiently compelling that Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt made successive attempts to present the invasions of North Africa in 1942 and Italy in 1943 as meeting Soviet criteria. Joseph Stalin was unimpressed...

    Allied Invasion of France (D-Day), 1944 | - Soviet Russia (1917-53) | RUSSIA TRAVEL GUIDE |
    Let's don't let ourselves get bogged down with only a halfassed perspective of history.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Huh. I actually met a 1/26th Infantry soldier while there. He was a Mexican guy, tattooed, which I found shocking, as it's against regulation in the Royal Marines to have tattooes showing.
    It used to be in the U.S. Army, too, but they dropped that reg at some point, before I enlisted in '87. It's still enforced in some units, such as the Honor Guard and I belive it holds for embassy Marines, as well.

    It's ironic as hell: when I went to basic training I was in A/1/26th. When I ETS'ed, I was in C/1/26th. Blue Spader in, Blue Spader out.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why Stalin was practically begging us to invade France and open a second front? Because he was winning, hands down?

    No, that's not why.



    In reality, Stalin had been begging for a second front since 1941.



    Let's don't let ourselves get bogged down with only a halfassed perspective of history.
    you know that you in know way refuted anything that I said?

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why Stalin was practically begging us to invade France and open a second front? Because he was winning, hands down?

    No, that's not why.



    In reality, Stalin had been begging for a second front since 1941.



    Let's don't let ourselves get bogged down with only a halfassed perspective of history.
    Stalin was begging for a second front because tens of millions of Russians had died fighting for your freedom while you sat back and threw money at the problem, and he wanted to come out of this war with any kind of male population at all.

    But, instead, the cowardly Americans refused to open the second front until 1944, by which time the Russians already had the Germans in full retreat across Poland, leaving twenty million dead Russians in their wake.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It used to be in the U.S. Army, too, but they dropped that reg at some point, before I enlisted in '87. It's still enforced in some units, such as the Honor Guard and I belive it holds for embassy Marines, as well.

    It's ironic as hell: when I went to basic training I was in A/1/26th. When I ETS'ed, I was in C/1/26th. Blue Spader in, Blue Spader out.
    Ah. But gang affiliations are still strictly no-go, correct?

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    you know that you in know way refuted anything that I said?
    Actually, I did; even if you refuse to admit it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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