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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I know. We should be more like the pussy french or the rest of flacid europe an its weak will to take care of its own back yard. Nah, its much easier to whine about the big bad USA when you dont have yo put any of you countrymen's lives on the line.

    Dont worry, we got this.
    Don't hate on the French. They are one of the ONLY countries in the world. That has always supported us militaryily. Sure they could do better. But there is only so many soldiers they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I would? I'm a Russian-born Englishman. The two nations I represent are the two which one the Second World War. Pray tell why on Earth I'd be wearing lederhosen? It's you who ought to be thanking us for beating the Germans in two consecutive world wars, while the cowardly Americans stayed out until they knew which side was going to win.


    So when and where did you serve? Or are you simply a spectator commenting on the teams?

    Funny thing, i can remember reading about whole battalions surrenduring to the germans in wwII....

    I also find it funny how you dont like te US sending troops anywhwhere but call us cowards for bailing the allies out in wwii.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I would? I'm a Russian-born Englishman. The two nations I represent are the two which one the Second World War. Pray tell why on Earth I'd be wearing lederhosen? It's you who ought to be thanking us for beating the Germans in two consecutive world wars, while the cowardly Americans stayed out until they knew which side was going to win.
    Ya'll won WW2?

    Ever hear of Lend-Lease? What about Dunkirk?

    Yeah, ya'll won it alright.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So when and where did you serve? Or are you simply a spectator commenting on the teams?

    Funny thing, i can remember reading about whole battalions surrenduring to the germans in wwII....

    I also find it funny how you dont like te US sending troops anywhwhere but call us cowards for bailing the allies out in wwii.

    America haters always do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Don't hate on the French. They are one of the ONLY countries in the world. That has always supported us militaryily. Sure they could do better. But there is only so many soldiers they have.
    I have some French rifles for sale. Never fired and only dropped once.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I know. We should be more like the pussy french or the rest of flacid europe an its weak will to take care of its own back yard. Nah, its much easier to whine about the big bad USA when you dont have yo put any of you countrymen's lives on the line.

    Dont worry, we got this.
    The only thing the Americans have shown in fighting two unwinnable wars is that their bark is worse than their bite. Let's take a look at recent military history. I think you'll see an interesting trend: That of Americans getting their asses handed to them, while European nations quietly and successfully win their own wars without American help.

    Suez Canal Crisis, 1956 -- British and French troops take the Suez Canal from Egypt and fight through the town of Suez to secure it in what was called the most effective amphibious assault since D-Day.

    The Falklands War, 1982 -- Argentina swarms Las Malvinas with thousands of troops. Britain sends her Navy and the Royal Marines -- after a few months of intense fighting, the UK successfully reclaims the Falklands, and Argentina surrenders. Minimal UK casualties.

    The Battle of Mogadishu, 1993 -- Americans go into Mogadishu due to internal unrest, 20 Delta Force and Rangers are killed, Pakistanis arrive to rescue the Americans. Impressive.

    Northern Ireland Troubles, 1980s -- IRA causes mass unrest in Northern Ireland, Britain successfully puts down insurgency, and secures Northern Ireland, marking one of the most successful counterinsurgency operations to date.

    Kosovo War, 1998 -- In the wake of the Yugoslav Wars, NATO and UN troops are deployed to Serbia to keep the peace between several uneasy factions. Two American jets are shot down, Americans lose control of Pristina International Airport to Russians, bomb the wrong targets.

    Cote d'Ivoire, 2002 -- French Army successfully concludes the Ivorian Civil War against insurgent groups terrorising the population.

    First Gulf War, 1990 -- 400 American deaths, list of American ****-ups:
    1 Gulf War Illness
    2 Effects of depleted uranium
    3 Highway of Death
    4 Bulldozer assault
    5 Killing of unarmed Iraqi Soldiers
    6 Coalition bombing of Iraq's civilian infrastructure
    7 Abuse of coalition POWs
    8 Operation Southern Watch
    9 Gulf war sanctions
    10 Draining of the Qurna Marshes
    11 Gulf War oil spill
    12 Kuwaiti oil fires

    On the other hand, the French Foreign Legion accounted for the entirety of the left-flank of the drive through Iraq, and was commended by American General Schwarzkopf as "the most effective combat operation I'd ever seen".

    Ugandan Genocide, 1994 -- French Army deploys to Uganda while the Americans refuse to go, and stop the genocide in its tracks.

    Iraq War, 2003 -- American mishaps in leadership and effective counterinsurgency lead to 4000 American deaths. The British-controlled southern provinces of Iraq, at the capital of Basra, become the safest and most stable areas of the country.

    Afghanistan War, 2001 -- American combat units repeatedly fail to destroy the massive drug trade in Afghanistan, lose 1500 soldiers, cause even greater insurgency. UK troops in Helmand province take the Taleban-held city of Lashkar Gah, once the most dangerous city in Afghanistan, and convert it into a Coalition-allied anti-drug powerhouse.


    The European powers have been fighting and winning wars before your nation was formed. Let us do the fighting, you just throw money at the problems. It's safer for you.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So when and where did you serve? Or are you simply a spectator commenting on the teams?

    Funny thing, i can remember reading about whole battalions surrenduring to the germans in wwII....

    I also find it funny how you dont like te US sending troops anywhwhere but call us cowards for bailing the allies out in wwii.

    Actually, I fought for the French Foreign Legion from 1988-1993, and with the Royal Marines from 1993-2000.


    Just thought I'd say.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya'll won WW2?

    Ever hear of Lend-Lease? What about Dunkirk?

    Yeah, ya'll won it alright.
    The British Empire and the Soviet Union together accounted for 95% of German casualties, and the Soviet Union alone accounted for 75%. So, yes, I'd say we won it. There's really no debate. I can go on and on, show you all the facts, about how 80% of the German Wehrmacht fought on the Eastern Front, about how the Soviet Union lost 20 million people in a sacrifice to the world against fascism, while all the Americans did was throw money at the problem until it went away, as they always do.

    But I'm inclined to think you've got your head so far up your arse there isn't enough light for you to read a history book, so I'm wasting my breath.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The only thing the Americans have shown in fighting two unwinnable wars is that their bark is worse than their bite. Let's take a look at recent military history. I think you'll see an interesting trend: That of Americans getting their asses handed to them, while European nations quietly and successfully win their own wars without American help.

    Suez Canal Crisis, 1956 -- British and French troops take the Suez Canal from Egypt and fight through the town of Suez to secure it in what was called the most effective amphibious assault since D-Day.

    The Falklands War, 1982 -- Argentina swarms Las Malvinas with thousands of troops. Britain sends her Navy and the Royal Marines -- after a few months of intense fighting, the UK successfully reclaims the Falklands, and Argentina surrenders. Minimal UK casualties.

    The Battle of Mogadishu, 1993 -- Americans go into Mogadishu due to internal unrest, 20 Delta Force and Rangers are killed, Pakistanis arrive to rescue the Americans. Impressive.

    Northern Ireland Troubles, 1980s -- IRA causes mass unrest in Northern Ireland, Britain successfully puts down insurgency, and secures Northern Ireland, marking one of the most successful counterinsurgency operations to date.

    Kosovo War, 1998 -- In the wake of the Yugoslav Wars, NATO and UN troops are deployed to Serbia to keep the peace between several uneasy factions. Two American jets are shot down, Americans lose control of Pristina International Airport to Russians, bomb the wrong targets.

    Cote d'Ivoire, 2002 -- French Army successfully concludes the Ivorian Civil War against insurgent groups terrorising the population.

    First Gulf War, 1990 -- 400 American deaths, list of American ****-ups:
    1 Gulf War Illness
    2 Effects of depleted uranium
    3 Highway of Death
    4 Bulldozer assault
    5 Killing of unarmed Iraqi Soldiers
    6 Coalition bombing of Iraq's civilian infrastructure
    7 Abuse of coalition POWs
    8 Operation Southern Watch
    9 Gulf war sanctions
    10 Draining of the Qurna Marshes
    11 Gulf War oil spill
    12 Kuwaiti oil fires

    On the other hand, the French Foreign Legion accounted for the entirety of the left-flank of the drive through Iraq, and was commended by American General Schwarzkopf as "the most effective combat operation I'd ever seen".

    Ugandan Genocide, 1994 -- French Army deploys to Uganda while the Americans refuse to go, and stop the genocide in its tracks.

    Iraq War, 2003 -- American mishaps in leadership and effective counterinsurgency lead to 4000 American deaths. The British-controlled southern provinces of Iraq, at the capital of Basra, become the safest and most stable areas of the country.

    Afghanistan War, 2001 -- American combat units repeatedly fail to destroy the massive drug trade in Afghanistan, lose 1500 soldiers, cause even greater insurgency. UK troops in Helmand province take the Taleban-held city of Lashkar Gah, once the most dangerous city in Afghanistan, and convert it into a Coalition-allied anti-drug powerhouse.


    The European powers have been fighting and winning wars before your nation was formed. Let us do the fighting, you just throw money at the problems. It's safer for you.
    Most of that is a revised version of history.

    Especially this,

    Ugandan Genocide, 1994 -- French Army deploys to Uganda while the Americans refuse to go, and stop the genocide in its tracks.
    I like this one, too,

    On the other hand, the French Foreign Legion accounted for the entirety of the left-flank of the drive through Iraq, and was commended by American General Schwarzkopf as "the most effective combat operation I'd ever seen".
    You do realize that Foreign Legion like, 90% non-French, right? I think back then, it was still illegal for French citizens to join the Foreign Legion, but I could be wrong.

    This is one of the UK's claims to fame, of late...

    2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The British Empire and the Soviet Union together accounted for 95% of German casualties, and the Soviet Union alone accounted for 75%. So, yes, I'd say we won it. There's really no debate. I can go on and on, show you all the facts, about how 80% of the German Wehrmacht fought on the Eastern Front, about how the Soviet Union lost 20 million people in a sacrifice to the world against fascism, while all the Americans did was throw money at the problem until it went away, as they always do.

    But I'm inclined to think you've got your head so far up your arse there isn't enough light for you to read a history book, so I'm wasting my breath.
    So, what Russian units were in North Africa? The Pacific? Italy? Normandy? Face it, friend, ya'll were getting your asses handed to you, before we showed up to save the day. It's an indisputable fact that American are superior to any other nationality on earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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