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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There you go:
    I said, "lower", gas prices, not, "cheap", gas prices. Semantics, yes, but there is a difference.
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I said, "lower", gas prices, not, "cheap", gas prices. Semantics, yes, but there is a difference.
    Most of the gas that Libya makes goes to Italy. So if anyone should be paying for higher gas it should be the ITALIANS' and not Americans'. But the whole media and greedy corporations have you convinced. That what affects someone else will affect us too. Even though we don't get anything from them. Kind of silly but I guess that is what greed does.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Here's hoping it's not an empty threat from the Apologist in Chief Obama.
    There is no threat, you bloodthirsty warmonger. If you could read, you'd see the NATO forces repositioning there, including the US military carrier, would be offering humanitarian aide and security in the event of a civil war.

    Surely you're not dumb enough to advocate ANOTHER war in a poor Muslim country?

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    There is no threat, you bloodthirsty warmonger. If you could read, you'd see the NATO forces repositioning there, including the US military carrier, would be offering humanitarian aide and security in the event of a civil war.

    Surely you're not dumb enough to advocate ANOTHER war in a poor Muslim country?
    Most American's are.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    The predador can circle overhead until the target is confirmed, then launch a hellfire missle that takes seconds to reach it's target.






    So no one would notice a predator "circlimg around" and your goingt to launch a 100lb missile at quadafii and there wont be any collateral damage?

    Really?
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Most American's are.
    I refuse to believe that. I believe that the Americans who are neo-con war-hawk ignorant bastards are what's called the "loud minority", which is only exacerbated by the fact that the average American, as opposed to being a loudmouthed, arrogant tool, is more likely ignorant of the situation, and apathetic to it as well. The problem with the American worldview is not so much that they want to bomb everything that doesn't agree with them -- only that loud minority is stupid enough to want that. The real problem is that Americans are living in a neverland, a bubble, and they don't care what happens outside of their little worlds, as long as they can go around driving their gas-guzzling hummers and sending their kids to below-average universities for exorbitant fees.

    I don't think Councilman here represents the majority view in America -- the majority view simply doesn't care enough to voice itself.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I refuse to believe that. I believe that the Americans who are neo-con war-hawk ignorant bastards are what's called the "loud minority", which is only exacerbated by the fact that the average American, as opposed to being a loudmouthed, arrogant tool, is more likely ignorant of the situation, and apathetic to it as well. The problem with the American worldview is not so much that they want to bomb everything that doesn't agree with them -- only that loud minority is stupid enough to want that. The real problem is that Americans are living in a neverland, a bubble, and they don't care what happens outside of their little worlds, as long as they can go around driving their gas-guzzling hummers and sending their kids to below-average universities for exorbitant fees.

    I don't think Councilman here represents the majority view in America -- the majority view simply doesn't care enough to voice itself.
    If it hadn't been for that loud minority you'd look like this:

    The majority didn't give a crap about you guys back then.
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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If it hadn't been for that loud minority you'd look like this:

    The majority didn't give a crap about you guys back then.
    I would? I'm a Russian-born Englishman. The two nations I represent are the two which one the Second World War. Pray tell why on Earth I'd be wearing lederhosen? It's you who ought to be thanking us for beating the Germans in two consecutive world wars, while the cowardly Americans stayed out until they knew which side was going to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I refuse to believe that. I believe that the Americans who are neo-con war-hawk ignorant bastards are what's called the "loud minority", which is only exacerbated by the fact that the average American, as opposed to being a loudmouthed, arrogant tool, is more likely ignorant of the situation, and apathetic to it as well. The problem with the American worldview is not so much that they want to bomb everything that doesn't agree with them -- only that loud minority is stupid enough to want that. The real problem is that Americans are living in a neverland, a bubble, and they don't care what happens outside of their little worlds, as long as they can go around driving their gas-guzzling hummers and sending their kids to below-average universities for exorbitant fees.

    I don't think Councilman here represents the majority view in America -- the majority view simply doesn't care enough to voice itself.
    I know. We should be more like the pussy french or the rest of flacid europe an its weak will to take care of its own back yard. Nah, its much easier to whine about the big bad USA when you dont have yo put any of you countrymen's lives on the line.

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    Re: U.S. Military Repositions Forces in Preparation for Libya Response

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have to read up on my history?
    apparently, yes

    Vietnam War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This is why there was a mass exodus of North Vietnamese:

    Vietnam was temporarily partitioned at the 17th parallel, and under the terms of the Geneva Convention, civilians were to be given the opportunity to move freely between the two provisional states for a 300-day period. Elections throughout the country were to be held in 1956 to establish a unified government.[70] Around one million northerners, mainly minority Catholics, fled south, fearing persecution by the communists,[71] following an American propaganda campaign using slogans such as "The Virgin Mary is heading south",[72] and aided by a U.S. funded $93 million relocation program, which included ferrying refugees with the Seventh Fleet.[73] It is estimated that as many as two million more would have left had they not been stopped by the Viet Minh.[74] The northern, mainly Catholic refugees were meant to give Diem a strong anti-communist constituency.[75] Diem later went on to staff his administration's key posts mostly with northern and central Catholics.
    Ho Chi Minh was hardly the only candidate:

    In the south, former Emperor Bảo Đại's State of Vietnam operated, with Ngô Đěnh Diệm (appointed in July 1954) as his prime minister. In June 1955, Diem announced that elections would not be held. South Vietnam had rejected the agreement from the beginning and was therefore not bound by it, he said. "How can we expect 'free elections' to be held in the Communist North?" Diem asked. President Dwight D. Eisenhower echoed senior U.S. experts[81] when he wrote that, in 1954, "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bảo Đại.
    Now you gonna argue with Ike? Those are the words from the mouth of the man himself.

    In a referendum on the future of the State of Vietnam on 23 October, Diem rigged the poll supervised by his brother Ngo Dinh Nhu and was credited with 98.2 percent of the vote, including 133% in Saigon. His American advisers had recommended a more modest winning margin of "60 to 70 percent." Diem, however, viewed the election as a test of authority.[85] On 26 October 1955, Diem declared the new Republic of Vietnam (ROV), with himself as president.[86] The ROV was created largely because of the Eisenhower administration's desire for an anti-communist state in the region.[84]
    Accruing considerable U.S. support due to his staunch anti-Communism, he achieved victory in a 1955 plebiscite that was widely considered fraudulent. Proclaiming himself the Republic's first President, he demonstrated considerable political skill in the consolidation of his power, and his rule proved authoritarian, elitist, nepotistic, and corrupt. A Roman Catholic, Diệm pursued policies that rankled and oppressed the Republic's Montagnard natives and its Buddhist majority.
    You call all that "choosing democracy?"
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