View Poll Results: If the government is shutdown, will the GOP get their demands?

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  • Yes, the budget will pass as is and the dems will look bad

    4 14.81%
  • No, the shutdown will backfire and they will have to negotiate

    10 37.04%
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    11 40.74%
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The largest majority of Americans in 60+ years voted the Republicans into control, because they were dissatisfied with what the Democrats were doing. The will of the people says to not just sit back and let the Democrats keep on keepin' on. The will of the people says to stop this crap and the Democrats should be taking notice.
    That's what the Democrats said after the 2008 election... They thought they were right and it was a referendum on Republican politics, and that's what they said in the news all the time too.

    Were the election results a referendum on Republican principles?

    Neither party has changed, and neither party is good... Look at the shape America is in right now, and it's the work of both parties. The voters go one way to the next, because it's all there is to vote for... not because one party is suddenly right. That's hysterical. Neither party has really changed, if anything both sides have gotten more extreme and stubborn in their ways.

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    And yet, in all of the seats that the republicans won, a significant portion of the people in those states voted democrat as well. 30-49% in most cases. I stand by what I said. While the republicans might have won a lot of seats in the election, the overall political makeup of the country is split pretty evenly.
    42% Conservative--39% Independent--19% Liberal.......




    ....split pretty evenly my arse.......
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The largest majority of Americans in 60+ years voted the Republicans into control, because they were dissatisfied with what the Democrats were doing. The will of the people says to not just sit back and let the Democrats keep on keepin' on. The will of the people says to stop this crap and the Democrats should be taking notice.
    BTW... "the largest majority of 60+ years old" is far from a general description of "the people." I believe in the 2008 election the GOP won the majority of seniors and the majority of white men, but that's it... I fall into neither of those categories, a lot of people don't. Neither the GOP or the dems control the direction of this country, the people do and 60+ is far from all the people.

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The only reason it's a split congress, is because there weren't anough senate seats up for grabs to elect more Republicans.

    It's quite obvious that the American people didn't vote to keep the status quo.
    There were enough Senate seats up for the GOP to also take over the Senate... but the GOP candidates didn't win. Somebody even beat a Tea Partier with a write in campaign. A write in campaign! That says a lot...

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    On Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in history........The overwhelming majority of the American people decided to give control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans.........specifically Republicans that ran on cutting government spending.

    Spending bills originate in the house.......deal with it......
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    Spending votes do not start and end in the house... deal with it
    Last edited by SheWolf; 02-26-11 at 09:47 PM.

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    42% Conservative--39% Independent--19% Liberal.......




    ....split pretty evenly my arse.......
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    Your selective memory about on American history and politics is appalling and disturbing...

    Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans - Pew Research Center

    That's from March 20, 2008... you see how things change? It can change just as quickly for the GOP...

    The GOP had their @sses stomped by a black guy with common Muslim name, and that was following the Bush Admin and a rise in Islamophobia in America... which is quite hilarious when you think about it.

    And even after that happened, and the conservatives were crying about Obama being a secret Muslim-Terrorist, hating America, stealing the election, and wanting to destroy the country... it would have been just as ignorant and foolish of an American to flash around the map below and declare America only belonged to them and not you.




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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Your selective memory about on American history and politics is appalling and disturbing...

    Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans - Pew Research Center

    That's from March 20, 2008... you see how things change? It can change just as quickly for the GOP...

    The GOP had their @sses stomped by a black guy with common Muslim name, and that was following the Bush Admin and a rise in Islamophobia in America... which is quite hilarious when you think about it.

    And even after that happened, and the conservatives were crying about Obama being a secret Muslim-Terrorist, hating America, stealing the election, and wanting to destroy the country... it would have been just as ignorant and foolish of an American to flash around the map below and declare America only belonged to them and not you.




    Partisans disgust me...
    I don't recall anyone claiming he stole the election.
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There were enough Senate seats up for the GOP to also take over the Senate... but the GOP candidates didn't win. Somebody even beat a Tea Partier with a write in campaign. A write in campaign! That says a lot...
    Only 1/3 of the Senate was up for election........and Republicans will take back the Senate in 2012.........but that says a little.......

    Republicans took Control of the House with 63 House Seats, 6 Senate seats, 10 Governorships, 680+ State legislative seats, and control of 19 more State legislatures..

    .....that says a lot.
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    This is certainly possible, but it's only speculation.



    And they don't have the status quo now. Saying the democrats should roll over and let the republicans do what they want because 'it's the will of the American people' is just an excuse, and a fairly lame one at that. It's not like a huge majority of the American populace supports the republican agenda over the democratic agenda. The country is, and always has been, split roughly 50-50 along party lines. We now have a congress that actually represents that.
    I fully agree with your post, with one minor modification. The country is currently split with 1/3 republican, 1/3 democrat, and 1/3 Independents and Others who hate both parties equally, and vote based on the best person for the job regardless of political party.

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Your selective memory about on American history and politics is appalling and disturbing...

    Fewer Voters Identify as Republicans - Pew Research Center

    That's from March 20, 2008... you see how things change? It can change just as quickly for the GOP...
    I see how conservatives abandoned the Republican party.......because they were acting like Democrats.

    The GOP had their @sses stomped by a black guy with common Muslim name, and that was following the Bush Admin and a rise in Islamophobia in America... which is quite hilarious when you think about it.
    You mean that 52% "Landslide"?.....over one of the weakest Republican candidates in history--McCamnesty.

    And even after that happened, and the conservatives were crying about Obama being a secret Muslim-Terrorist, hating America, stealing the election, and wanting to destroy the country... it would have been just as ignorant and foolish of an American to flash around the map below and declare America only belonged to them and not you.




    Partisans disgust me...
    That map shows the shift....not who won........



    .......not exactly a TEA-nami was it.........not a "landslide".......not a referendum.........say different and declare 2010 the Political ***-whooping that it was.
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