View Poll Results: If the government is shutdown, will the GOP get their demands?

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  • Yes, the budget will pass as is and the dems will look bad

    4 14.81%
  • No, the shutdown will backfire and they will have to negotiate

    10 37.04%
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    We'll see if the approval ratings follow a similar track. It seriously has been seen in hindsight as one of the GOP congress's biggest blunders. I'm surprised they're planning on trying it again.
    Why would it be only the fault of the GOP?
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    How can the GOP reasonably place the blame for the shutdown on the democrats, when they're the only ones promoting and threatening a shutdown?

    This is such a BS defense if they do shut it down...


    Republicans Ease Demands in Bid to Avoid Government Shutdown - Businessweek
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Yeah, because it worked so well for the last time. /sarcasm

    The GOP, under Newt's guidance, tried this in the mid-90's with Clinton. It backfired badly. GOP approval dropped like a rock and Clinton, whose approval had been pretty low, skyrocketed. To do the same thing over again and expect a different result is the definition of insanity.

    When the GOP cut spending with the Clinton era, Clinton got the pat on the back. The people saw this and hence George W. became elected and not the nut Gore.
    This is how I think about it...You have a maxed out credit card...do you just keep paying back the min. and keep spending on the card because hey...we are paying something towards it..Or do you STOP spending period. You give up all your credit cards and with the money you make from those cuts start paying off you debt. Am I wrong? Doesnt this make sense...
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Which is why I don't have a problem with expecting older working people in established professions to pay more NOW. They were the ones running up the deficit, so they should have to pay it back... Why should they get Bush tax cuts, medicare, and SS, and suck everything else dry while they are at it? It's BS. They were robbing us before we were born, and leaving us with the bill...

    My generation shouldn't have to worry about this. They should be trying to make it right instead of complaining about it like they weren't the ones who f**ked us and the country. I hate when politicians do TV ads talking about leaving the bill to their kids and grandkids... because it was THEM who ran the deficit up in the first place, and now they want to talk about fairness and promote more tax cuts for themselves and hold out their government funded hands for raises.
    so can i count on your support for my social security fix?

    or Paul Ryan's roadmap?

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Why would it be only the fault of the GOP?
    because that's the narrative that the DNC and the media wants in place. reality need not apply.

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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    How can the GOP reasonably place the blame for the shutdown on the democrats, when they're the only ones promoting and threatening a shutdown?

    This is such a BS defense if they do shut it down...
    ....maybe because DEMOCRATS FAILED TO PASS A BUDGET LAST YEAR?.......making the shutdown possible.

    You know....ignoring their constitutional duties.....similar to The Kenyan Tyrant ignoring whichever laws he disagrees with.

    If Democrats hadnt been so busy defying the will of the american people........perhaps they would of had time last year to do their job.......

    ....although as we have seen from Democrats in Washington to Democrats in Wisconsin......thats asking a lot.
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    How can the GOP reasonably place the blame for the shutdown on the democrats, when they're the only ones promoting and threatening a shutdown?

    This is such a BS defense if they do shut it down...


    Republicans Ease Demands in Effort to Avert Government Shutdown - Businessweek
    How is the GOP threatening or promoting a shutdown. They simply are saying...cut spending or you will not have anymore money to spend later...and did u read your own headline..Republicans Ease Demands in Bid to Avoid Government Shutdown...they do NOT want a shutdown. But we are tired of spending and will not keep giving without some cutbacks.
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Exactly... no accountability from either side, but I have always hated the "you made me do it" defense. Come the f*** on! The GOP are not victims in this situation. They can actively fight for their budget and goals in more ways than just this one...
    Yeah...maybe they should run away to another country......maybe they could just vote to "deem a budget passed"......or maybe just "ignore the budget".......it worked for Democrats

    All they are doing is holding the American people at state gunpoint. Everybody did not elect them, so they should work with the elected officials the people also elected. The government shouldn't even have the power to say, we'll govern and do want we want or we do nothing for the American people..
    .....less than 20% of America voted for The Kenyan Tyrant.......where has this concern been for the last 2 years?
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Did Obama not propose 1 trillion in cuts over a decade that was shot down by conservatives? What was wrong with that budget? Conservatives have shown again and again that they aren't able to come forth with a budget any more streamlined than Obama's.
    Willfull ignorance...........

    .....is that the same Obama that "went through the federal budget line by line"........and managed to cut less than 1/2 of 1%?

    The Most Expensive President in History......
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    Re: GOP threatening to shut down government, but say it will be Dems fault

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    I just don't get this mentality of "Give us tax cuts! Why is there a deficit?!?"

    Bringing taxes back to their original levels would reduce the budget shortfall by $250 Billion in the short term. But god forbid the american people have to pay for what they voted for.
    Cutting taxes doesnt always mean your cutting Tax Revenue.......I just dont get this mentality of "Raise Taxes! Why is there still a deficit?!"




    ......The Bush Tax Cuts--One of the largest tax cuts in history......and Tax Revenue increased.
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