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    Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Canadian health care allocation officials already ruled that Joseph had to be taken off life support and allowed to die in the hospital. A Canadian judge then ruled that Maraachli had to give his consent to having the breathing tube removed by Monday. He refused.

    Maraachli says turning off life support could cause his son to choke and suffocate. He told Fox News on Wednesday that the doctors at London Health Sciences Centre have said the “best treatment” is to “let him die… I don’t know what kind of treatment that [is].”

    So with nationalized healthcare, a judge gets to make the decisions about the medical care for your children.

    Hmmm. I think I'll pass. Kinda sounds like one of those "death panels".

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    Canadian government orders child off life support

    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer
    Canadian health care allocation officials already ruled that Joseph had to be taken off life support and allowed to die in the hospital. A Canadian judge then ruled that Maraachli had to give his consent to having the breathing tube removed by Monday. He refused.
    I really feel for the parents here. While I actually agree that the child should be removed from life support, it should be the PARENTS decision... not the governments or the courts.

    This is the type of health care we'll end up with eventually if Obamacare is not dropped.

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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    So with nationalized healthcare, a judge gets to make the decisions about the medical care for your children.
    Your article is sloped.


    Michigan hospital won't take dying Windsor baby - Parentcentral.ca

    LONDON, ONT.—The parents of a dying 13-month-old boy from Windsor, Ont., are said to be devastated after suffering yet another setback.

    Joseph Maraachli's family received word late Wednesday afternoon that the Children's Hospital of Michigan has decided not to request the transfer of the baby from a London, Ont., hospital.

    “Joseph’s parents are devastated by the news that the Michigan Children’s Hospital will not accept Joseph,” their lawyer Mark Handleman said in an email to The Canadian Press Wednesday night.

    Moe Maraachli hoped to transfer his son to the U.S. hospital after waging a months-long battle to stop doctors at London's Victoria Hospital from taking the baby off a ventilator.

    Alex Schadenberg, the executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, said he was with Joseph's father when he got the news
    From your ****ing article!

    Officials at the Ontario hospital appeared to be cooperating with the transfer request and sent Joseph’s full medical record to Children’s Hospital of Michigan on Monday.

    Hmmm. I think I'll pass. Kinda sounds like one of those "death panels".
    Whats actually wrong with this story is this:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windso...curity686.html

    Hospital officials have increased security around Joseph Maraachli, the terminally ill Windsor, Ont., baby whose fate is now the focus of a battle pitting his parents against his doctors.

    The 13-month-old is in a vegetative state from a rare neurodegenerative condition and has no hope of recovery, medical professionals said.

    His parents had urged doctors at the London Health Sciences Centre to perform a tracheotomy on their son so they could take him home to die in peace, but the hospital refused. The baby was to be disconnected from a ventilator on Monday after a court order, but that was delayed when the parents tried to get their son transferred to a Detroit hospital for a possible tracheotomy.
    The hospital acted unnaceptably. They should have granted the parents request, but the baby was always going to die. It wasn't "We're not going to save him". The baby is terminal. And shame on that judge for upholding that hospitals decision.

    Be very careful about misrepresenting again.

    This issue is not about whether or not a judge ordered the baby to die, the baby was going to die and the parents accepted that, this issue is about the judge and the hospital denying parents request for the tracheotomy so that they could bring the baby home with them to die in peace...

    This is not about Euthanisia before anyone starts jumping the gun.
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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    My comments weren't about the Michigan hospital.

    It was about the fact that a JUDGE, not the doctor and the parents working together, made the decision regarding taking the child off the ventilator. The Ontario hospital had to help the parents because a JUDGE was telling that hospital what it had to do.

    That is disgusting.
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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    sorry... did not see related thread in Mainstream Media.

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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    I really feel for the parents here. While I actually agree that the child should be removed from life support, it should be the PARENTS decision... not the governments or the courts.

    This is the type of health care we'll end up with eventually if Obamacare is not dropped.
    if we are lucky, it will be

    one of the present practices which causes our health care costs to be so enormous in comparison to the rest of the world is the amount of care provided to those who are terminal. such as the instance you have presented

    # Nearly one third of terminally ill patients with insurance used up most or all of their savings to cover uninsured medical expenses such as home care.

    # 27 to 30 percent of Medicare payments cover the cost of care for people in the last year of life.

    # 40 percent of Medicare dollars cover care for people in the last month.

    # 12 percent of Medicare spending covers people who are in the last two months.

    # 10 percent of Medicare beneficiaries account for 70 percent of program spending.

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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Your article is sloped.


    Michigan hospital won't take dying Windsor baby - Parentcentral.ca



    From your ****ing article!






    Whats actually wrong with this story is this:
    Ont. hospital boosts security around dying baby - Windsor - CBC News



    The hospital acted unnaceptably. They should have granted the parents request, but the baby was always going to die. It wasn't "We're not going to save him". The baby is terminal. And shame on that judge for upholding that hospitals decision.

    Be very careful about misrepresenting again.

    This issue is not about whether or not a judge ordered the baby to die, the baby was going to die and the parents accepted that, this issue is about the judge and the hospital denying parents request for the tracheotomy so that they could bring the baby home with them to die in peace...

    This is not about Euthanisia before anyone starts jumping the gun.
    'The baby was going to die', and 'no hope of recovery' are two different things. You have no idea if the baby was going to die tomorrow, or 30 years from now.

    This was compared in several articles to the Terri Schiavo case, only in reverse. Instead of someone petitioning the appropriate authority for the baby to be allowed to die peacefully, the government health authority ORDERED it, and the courts ORDERED the parents to consent.

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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if we are lucky, it will be

    one of the present practices which causes our health care costs to be so enormous in comparison to the rest of the world is the amount of care provided to those who are terminal. such as the instance you have presented

    # Nearly one third of terminally ill patients with insurance used up most or all of their savings to cover uninsured medical expenses such as home care.

    # 27 to 30 percent of Medicare payments cover the cost of care for people in the last year of life.

    # 40 percent of Medicare dollars cover care for people in the last month.

    # 12 percent of Medicare spending covers people who are in the last two months.

    # 10 percent of Medicare beneficiaries account for 70 percent of program spending.

    Before I Die: Spending on Care
    so... you approve of the government deciding when someone should be taken off life support, as opposed to the family?

    nice.

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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    so... you approve of the government deciding when someone should be taken off life support, as opposed to the family?

    nice.
    That's EGZAKLY right. And it will be a better world when we don't keep people in vegetative states so that hospitals, doctors and crg companies can increase their bottom lines.
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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    so... you approve of the government deciding when someone should be taken off life support, as opposed to the family?

    nice.
    i approve it when it is determined by trained medical professionals
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