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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, but at the end of the day, it had to do with who had the right to say if she lived, or died; the parents, or her husband.
    That one is easy. When people get married they automatically gain power of attourney.

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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Possibly because it's factual...
    There's any unhelpful statement, but typical.
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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    There's any unhelpful statement, but typical.
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    Maybe that's why liberals lick their boots so much.
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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Those who live in a glass house...
    You think your clever, but you're not. You made a personal attack, I didn't. Carry on.
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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    We have our ways of doing things here in Canada, you have yours. So if you can kindly keep your hand out of our business that would be appreciated.
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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    First of all, the OP is a lie. Here is the real story from Canada's main news network, the CBC: Dying Ont. baby's transfer to Detroit denied - Windsor - CBC News

    The issue is that the child's breathing passage is completely obstructed because of a neurological disorder. The kid is a vegetable, basically. The parents want the kid to die at home with them, but in order to do so the kid requires a tracheotomy so that he can at least breathe partially for the few hours it will take him to die. The doctors said that performing surgery now is pointless because the child is going to die either way, tracheotomy or no tracheotomy.

    The whole story is about the parents wanting the kid to die at home and trying to force the hospital to perform a surgery that is a futile waste of medical resources. They tried taking the issue to court, and the courts support the doctors. They tried transferring the kid to a hospital in Detroit to get the surgery performed, and Detroit said no.

    The parents are just in denial. Why should medical resources be wasted to support that? Let the kid die.

    Shame on the OP and Fox News for lying and leaving out the actual details. An American hospital rejected the surgery request. This has nothing to do with style of health care and everything to do with a couple of parents who are having trouble letting go, which is understandable.

    Love how everyone ignored your post. But this is true.

    The government has a say because people often take advantage of free healthcare.
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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I don't believe that the government should have that power, except in cases where the person is a ward of the state, such as a prisoner without next of kin. However, as a function of any insurance, I can see a case where the government no longer agrees to pay for life support and if care is continued, it must be paid for in some other way.
    I do not disagree with anythign you just said. However, I've not seen any mention of money or costs, or who may or may not have offered to pay for what in this case.

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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    I really feel for the parents here. While I actually agree that the child should be removed from life support, it should be the PARENTS decision... not the governments or the courts.

    This is the type of health care we'll end up with eventually if Obamacare is not dropped.
    So you want to pay for the vegetative child to stay on life support because the parents won't take him off?

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    Re: Canadian government orders child off life support

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    FoxNews.com - Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    I really feel for the parents here. While I actually agree that the child should be removed from life support, it should be the PARENTS decision... not the governments or the courts.

    This is the type of health care we'll end up with eventually if Obamacare is not dropped.
    I think its a good story and shows probably the biggest problem with any kind of socialized medicine, that is that there simply isn't enough money to give everyone the absolute best and longest care. And so the choice is either run a massive deficit, which is what the US has chosen, or ration what healthcare can be afforded by the system among its recipients to hopefully use it the most effective and efficient way possible. Note I'm talking about the deficit in the national healthcare services alone, not the entire public debt although healthcare costs are a huge apart of that theres other sources of all public debt.

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    Re: Canadian Family in Life Support Battle Denied Request for Hospital Transfer

    This case is a terrible tragedy, but there is not one thing that any person could have done differently that would have made any meaningful difference in the outcome. It doesn't matter when the baby dies or where, and thus it really doesn't matter who decides.

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