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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Their attitude is entirely irrelevant to my beliefs.
    Not to mention, are we seriously comparing getting a politician to talk tough to a party donor to catching people attempting to **** 10 year olds?

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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not to mention, are we seriously comparing getting a politician to talk tough to a party donor to catching people attempting to **** 10 year olds?
    Some what different situation I grant you. I actually don't care for "to catch a predator"...not that they try and catch predators, but it does not to my mind belong on TV.
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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not to mention, are we seriously comparing getting a politician to talk tough to a party donor to catching people attempting to **** 10 year olds?
    I am just talking about misrepresenting oneself as to try and catch someone doing something wrong. If you have a better real-life scenario I'd be glad to hear it. How about that show "Bait Car" where cops leave a car running on purpose to see if someone jumps in?

    I don't know, and I don't care. It's not about the prank call, it's about what he said. Besides the bat thing, it certainly appeared that he attempted to get more campaign money, not just for himself, but also his comrades during the conversation:

    WATCHDOG EXPLORING CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND ETHICS LAW-BREAKING BY SCOTT WALKER DURING FAKE CALL WITH BILLIONAIRE
    Relevant section (At the 4 minute mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3a2pYGr7-k)

    Gov. Walker: “After this in some of the coming days and weeks ahead, particularly in some of these more swing areas, a lot of these guys are going to need, they don’t need initially ads for them, but they’re going to need a message out. Reinforcing why this was a good thing to do for the economy, a good thing to do for the state. So to the extent that message is out over and over again is certainly a good thing.”

    Ian Murphy (posing as David Koch): “Right, right. We’ll back you any way we can.”
    As David Donnelly pointed out:

    “In a call with who he thought to be billionaire political donor David Koch, Gov. Walker may have broken campaign finance and ethics laws,” said David Donnelly, national campaigns director for Public Campaign Action Fund. “If he did, he should resign.

    “If you didn’t believe it before, you have to now—this fight isn’t about the budget, it’s about favors for corporate special interests,” continued Donnelly. “If Wisconsin law forbids coordination with political donors similar to federal law, Gov. Scott Walker is not just in political trouble, but in legal hot water.”
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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sorry that you cannot take evil being branded for what it is.
    you're branding me and mine as evil

    more power to you, of course

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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So it sounds like Walker said exactly what he's been saying in the Press and on television interviews.
    Really? Walker has said in television interviews that his camp thought about using plants to stir up trouble at protests? Sounds like you were watching something else.


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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    way off topic, and way too personal for me usually to comment on

    but chris hanson's predator physically makes me cringe

    in my opinion, one must almost be a sadist to watch it

    journalism as low as the sexual abuse of children, my opinion

    please carry on, please take no note of my view of this zoomed in crucifixion of those who but for the grace of...
    You have to be kidding me. That show is getting child molesters off the street and into prison. I am all for that show, and I commend them for what they are doing.
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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How mad was Zyphlin or Ockham during the ACORN scandal? I disagree with you anyway, it is just undercover work. I don't think Dateline NBC's: To Catch a Predator is sad because they trick pedophiles.
    I'm not mad about this incident... it's a valid tactic. The funny part here is, we've learned very little more than we already knew after a supposed prank phone call -- the guy is genuine. I won't fault the tactics of making up a false identity and getting someone to let their guard down to get at the truth. There are moral and ethical questions surrounding that but I don't think those issues usually over-ride the requirement to get at the truth - but there are lines you don't cross in the extremes. I have no problem with tricking pedophiles, showing their faces on tv and outing them nationally. I think that should be done in every state all the time.

    It's up to Scott Walker to be smart about what he's doing and if he is not genuine about his goals or he's pulling a fast one on the people of WI, they should know it. Apparently though, he is genuine and these bloggers blew their load and got no big scoop.
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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I wonder what would happen if Obama was caught having a private conversation with Rahm Emmanuel discussing planting some of his people in Sarah Palin events. FOX News and conservatives would have a field day talking about Chicago style politics and how corrupt Obama is. I guess since it's not a Democrat politician doing this, it's not a big deal.
    What are you even talking about?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are you even talking about?
    What tools can we give you so that you can understand a simple concept? I guess minorities from Louisiana just don't understand simple sentences.
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    Re: On prank call, Wis. governor discusses strategy

    Err, I think the more interesting issue is how this all shows the governor's goal isn't fiscal rebalancing, it's union-busting. The union offered to accept all the financial issues but keep their collective bargaining rights. He wouldn't agree.

    If the goal was really deficit reduction, why wouldn't he take that deal?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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