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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The number of gay people in the US is highly debatable with a large number of different possible estimates. It is fairly(but not completely) safe to say somewhere between 1 % and 10 %, with the 5ish % area being the most likely. Since no one actually knows for sure, you two are arguing over something silly. Hatuey's original point actually works for any number in the range of possibility. Gays ain't electing nobody.
    of course they aren't. but when you add in all the hardcore non-gay gay supporters, the number is much larger and starts to become statistically significant. that is why hatuey's point is invalid. he assumes that only gay couples will care about the issue. which is completely WRONG.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

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    of course they aren't. but when you add in all the hardcore non-gay gay supporters, the number is much larger and starts to become statistically significant. that is why hatuey's point is invalid. he assumes that only gay couples will care about the issue. which is completely WRONG.
    But if you do that, then you have to subtract the nongay hardcore anti-gay rights people, which brings that number back down quite a bit. Supporting gay rights issues is not an effective strategy to win any election for democrats, since the people you are making happy are probably going to vote democrat in overwhelming fashion anyways.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But if you do that, then you have to subtract the nongay hardcore anti-gay rights people, which brings that number back down quite a bit. Supporting gay rights issues is not an effective strategy to win any election for democrats, since the people you are making happy are probably going to vote democrat in overwhelming fashion anyways.
    just as opposing gay rights issues won't make a difference either, since the people they would make happy aren't going to vote democrat anyway. how many republicans or conservatives would vote for a democrat simply because he/she opposed gay rights? not very many.

    my point was, the 1.5% that Hatuey threw out is a ridiculously low number when talking about the number of people who would care about the issue.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

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    just as opposing gay rights issues won't make a difference either, since the people they would make happy aren't going to vote democrat anyway. how many republicans or conservatives would vote for a democrat simply because he/she opposed gay rights? not very many.

    my point was, the 1.5% that Hatuey threw out is a ridiculously low number when talking about the number of people who would care about the issue.
    But the fact his number is on the low side does not change the fact that his point was 100 % accurate.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But the fact his number is on the low side does not change the fact that his point was 100 % accurate.
    how? his point was that only 1.5% of the people would give a ****.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Isn't the president sworn in to protect the laws and defend/enforce them? If he doesn't like DOMA he should work towards its repeal, not neglect his duty in the executive branch and chose to not defend laws he doesn't like.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

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    yeah, everyone knows that once you get married, you stop having sex. married for 26 years
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    It's time to start the impeachment.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

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    Isn't the president sworn in to protect the laws and defend/enforce them? If he doesn't like DOMA he should work towards its repeal, not neglect his duty in the executive branch and chose to not defend laws he doesn't like.
    But history shows that this "long-standing practice" is not always followed. Federal law requires the Justice Department to notify Congress when it decides not to defend a statute, and the list, while not lengthy, is significant -- 13 notifications since 2004.

    Law.com - Government's 'Duty to Defend' Not a Given

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Seems pretty contradictory that he claims to be a Christian and at the same time supports gay marriage.
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