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    Obama administration won't oppose same-sex marriage

    Obama administration won't oppose same-sex marriage - CNN.com

    Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama has ordered the Justice Department to stop defending the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage for federal purposes as only between a man and woman, according to a statement Wednesday from Attorney General Eric Holder.

    "The president has concluded that given a number of factors, including a documented history of discrimination, classifications based on sexual orientation should be subject to a more heightened standard of scrutiny," Holder said.

    The key provision in the law "fails to meet that standard and is therefore unconstitutional."

    "Given that conclusion, the president has instructed the (Justice Department) not to defend the statute" in two pending cases in New York, Holder said. "I fully concur with the president's determination."
    It looks like DOMA will not longer be defended by the justice department. My major concern with this is that such decisions should be left to the courts. I am never happy with the idea of politicization of any court proceedings and this is one such case.

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    Re: Obama administration won't oppose same-sex marriage

    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
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    Sorry, I looked but I guess I didn't look hard enough.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually the President is under no obligation to enforce any law. The advantage of being POTUS. Even if you disagree with this statement he certianly is under no obligation to continue defending a law in court.
    I'd like a detailed explanation from you on why you think Presidents are excused from enforcing laws.

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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's 8.8 MILLION PEOPLE total. Still unable to read basic statistics I guess. 8.8 million gays = ~2.5% of the population. ~2.5% of the population is closer to 1.5% than 10%.

    Your epic fail keeps getting bigger.
    and your lies keep getting more and more pathetic. sad that you were online the entire time and it took you 8 hours to come up with this pathetic post. every estimate I have ever seen says the gay population in the US is between 7 and 10%. I just threw out ~10 as a ballpark number. still much closer than your feeble 1.5%

    The most widely accepted statistic is that 1 in every 10 individuals is LGB;
    1 in 10 = 10% (for the terminally stupid)


    famed researcher Alfred Kinsey released a study claiming 10 percent of American males "admitted to having been predominantly homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55,
    hmmmm 10% again

    "In the last three elections, the Voter News Service exit poll registered the gay vote between 4 percent and 5 percent.
    and we all know that not everyone votes. assuming gays turn out to vote at around the same rates as straights...that would make the gay population around 8-10%.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and your lies keep getting more and more pathetic. sad that you were online the entire time and it took you 8 hours to come up with this pathetic post. every estimate I have ever seen says the gay population in the US is between 7 and 10%. I just threw out ~10 as a ballpark number. still much closer than your feeble 1.5%

    1 in 10 = 10% (for the terminally stupid)
    The number of gay people in the US is highly debatable with a large number of different possible estimates. It is fairly(but not completely) safe to say somewhere between 1 % and 10 %, with the 5ish % area being the most likely. Since no one actually knows for sure, you two are arguing over something silly. Hatuey's original point actually works for any number in the range of possibility. Gays ain't electing nobody.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Sorry, I looked but I guess I didn't look hard enough.
    No worries. It takes about 30 seconds to merge threads.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously do not understand how the department of justice works. It has nothing to do with Eric Holder's views. Obama has come to the realization that the DOMA was based on insupportable views of individual morality and can't withstand Constitutional muster. Something than many of us have been saying for years.

    America doesn't always get it right at first, but ultimately generally comes around once educated.
    He's doing what he does best.. Voting present.. Now the legislature will have to foot the bill, but last time I checked we all pay into those coffers. Obama knows this full well. Only idiots don't understand how this was purely political and was a "in your face evil republicans" move..


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