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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why does Obama need to defend a law he doesn't like?
    He doesn't. However the DOJ doesn't function like the White House. Obama can't just sack whomever he wants. Lawyers are sometimes holdovers from the previous administration. In the case that the Prof provided, a Republican mormon brought in by Bush wrote an argument against gay marriage which clearly reflected bad on Obama.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ahh good then I expect to see you supporting the Polygamy movement.
    I have no problem with polygamy if all parties involved consent to it.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Who Wrote it - and Who's Responsible?

    Many federal employees are civil servants who cannot be replaced because the new Administration disagrees with their politics. And because the gay couple in this case had previously challenged DOMA when George Bush was President, it is no surprise that the Justice Department had attorneys ready to defend the suit. In fact, one of the lawyers who wrote the brief - Scott Simpson - is a Mormon Republican, and a holdover from the Bush Administration. Alberto Gonzales even awarded the guy for his legal defense of the Partial Birth Abortion Act. Arguably, the Obama Administration could not replace him with a new attorney.

    But the first lawyer listed on the brief is Tony West, an Obama political appointee. West served as California finance chairman for Obama's campaign, where he raised at least $500,000. He is the brother-in-law of San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, who strongly supports gay marriage and is running for California Attorney General. His wife, Maya Harris, was until recently Executive Director of the Northern California ACLU. The ACLU issued a joint statement this weekend with other groups condemning the legal arguments in the brief, saying they were "very surprised and deeply disappointed" with the Obama Administration.

    Of course, there is no evidence that West wrote the legal brief - or even knew about it. His name was on the brief, because he heads the Justice Department's Civil Division (which handles all lawsuits filed against the federal government.) But that means he supervises the attorneys who wrote it, and he can be held accountable.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    I wish Navy Pride were hanging around here more these days....it would be fun to watch him go into a frenzy over this...
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama: I only bother with laws that I like...
    Alright, so, I vaguely understand where you people are coming from when you make such fools of yourselves over issues like gun control, the economy, and perhaps even abortion (albeit a bit of a stretch). But I fundamentally don't understand the conservative opposition to gay marriage, for any other reason than being a crazed Christian fanatic. Conservatives are supposed to be all about personal freedoms, and not being told by the government what you can and can't do. It's stupid, in my eyes, but that's your belief.

    Why, then, do you fight so hard to keep gay marriage illegal? If there weren't such a glaring double standard in your agendas, conservatives would be fighting FOR the legalisation of gay marriage as a personal freedom.

    So what gives? You only want the freedom to do what you think is right, and everything else should be regulated? Come on.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I fundamentally don't understand the conservative opposition to gay marriage
    ask tony west

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ask tony west
    Er.. Like, the darts pro?

    Why?

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    This is a great move that is very positive for the indited states and just further leads us to rid ourselves of one more accepted discrimination and denial of equal rights, freedoms and liberties.

    I applaud Obama for this move. Seems my guess of 10 years max for legalizing gay marriage will be shorter. While shocking it makes me very happy. With this step and getting rid of the dont ask dont tell discrimination equal gay rights are right around the corner.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm sorry, if you think a law is wrong, then why WOULD you keep on defending it?
    If you think a law is wrong, you work toward changing it. By that logic, it's OK to torture prisoners.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    So why are people mad?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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