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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your monicer is 'buck'. Where I live a buck is somebody who is fairly stupid. Do you also support Creationism? That's fairly stupid too.
    BTW, i'm not really sure what a monicer is. Must be that superior intellect of yours... But yes, I am fairly stupid, and am also a fan of "BuckSatan and the 666 shooters", well... Ministry really.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Can you cite one law he did this too? I don't recall.
    He exempted himself with all sorts of laws. He used signing statements too to say that the executive branch could not be held to the law he was signing. They didn't prosecute when prosecution was necessary. I mean, there's a point to criticizing Obama for his misdeeds. It's another to ignore the misdeeds of others based solely on the fact that the D changed to a R.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because it's the law... or does that part elude you? What if a Governor said "We're no longer going to enforce speed limits".
    The Executive can do that, since they execute. If the law is not executed the way the Legislature wanted, they can go to the Courts to get the Court to force the Executive to enforce the law as written.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Or it's just Obama trying to get re-elected.
    Or, it's Obama recognizing that doing the right thing would carry no political cost.

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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Or, it's Obama recognizing that doing the right thing would carry no political cost.
    Don’t know. Are you suggesting that Obama and his people are so dumb that they didn’t realize that people that might not like this decision would be far less likely to vote for him anyway? And Barney Frank, of all people, was the one that had to give him a clue? I guess it’s possible, but I find it unlikely.

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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so on what did you base your 1.5%? since the 2000 census estimated that ~ 10% of the US population was gay. what happened? did 8.5% of the gays turn straight or die? or, as usual, are you just talking out your ass without a clue as to what you are saying?
    Not only are you lying, your claim is demonstratively false:

    2000 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The census forms did not include any questions regarding sexual orientation, making it impossible to compile data comparing heterosexual and homosexual populations. However, two questions were asked that allowed same-sex partnerships to be counted.
    Extrapolating from those figures and the surveyed partnering habits of homosexuals, as many as 4.3 million homosexual adults could have been living in the U.S. in 2000.
    As far as the real gay population goes:

    What Percentage of the Population Is Gay?

    The 2000 U.S. Census Bureau found that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual." The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force estimates three to eight percent of both sexes. So who's right -- what percentage of the population is homosexual?

    How Many Gay People Are There? - Gay Population Statistics

    The Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, a sexual orientation law and public policy think tank, estimates that there are 8.8 million gay, lesbian, and bisexual persons in the U.S based on the 2005/2006 American Community Survey, an extension of the U.S. Census (Gary J. Gates, 2006, "Same-Sex Couples and the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Population: New Estimates from the American Community Survey").
    What percentage of the U.S. population is gay?

    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has estimated America's gay, lesbian, and bisexual population at around 8.8 million people. That translates to somewhere between 2.5 and 3 percent.
    A site called GayDemographics.org offers up a different set of statistics, placing an emphasis on the number of same-sex couples in the United States. According to their findings, there were a total of 61,064,407 couples in 2004. Approximately 707,196 (or 1.16 percent) were same-sex couples.
    Must be all those stat classes you took.
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Not only are you lying, your claim is demonstratively false:

    notice all your links reference "couples". I guess all the other gays who are not in a committed relationship don't matter. or is it your contention that they don't care about gay marriage?
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    notice all your links reference "couples". I guess all the other gays who are not in a committed relationship don't matter. or is it your contention that they don't care about gay marriage?
    Dude... you JUST GOT CAUGHT MAKING **** UP. The 2000 census didn't have ANY QUESTIONS that would make 10% of the population gay. And now you look even more foolish by ignoring what the links actually say. The other links show that there is simply no possible way that a person can claim there are 30 million gays and lesbians in the US whether they are married or not, it references 8.8 as being the estimate for gays and lesbians. Not couples. Care to make anything else up?
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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

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    gay marriage is like incest and sex with pubescents...

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    Re: Government drops defense of anti gay marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Dude... you JUST GOT CAUGHT MAKING **** UP. The 2000 census didn't have ANY QUESTIONS that would make 10% of the population gay. And now you look even more foolish by ignoring what the links actually say. The other links show that there is simply no possible way that a person can claim there are 30 million gays and lesbians in the US whether they are married or not, it references 8.8 as being the estimate for gays and lesbians. Not couples. Care to make anything else up?

    8.8 is ~10, much closer than the 1.5 you claimed.

    so, instead of whining and trying to save face, how about you answer the questions.

    do the gays who are not in committed relationships count? do they not give a **** about gay marriage? or are you going to stick with your 1.5%?



    oh, and in case you really just can't understand it...I never specified couples (and neither did you when you threw out your 1.5%)
    Last edited by OscarB63; 02-23-11 at 05:40 PM.
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