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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What does it matter if the judge is conservative or not?
    Cuts off the argument of "liberal activism".
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There are many people who call themselves Christians.

    There are some who follow the New Testament and the sections of the Old that weren't changed by Christ's sacrifice.

    Do you think modernizing a 2,000 year old religion to fit "modern" perceptions, in terms of the original integrity of that religion, is wise? I do not.

    I don't mind your opinion, and I don't care to show the multiple verses of the Bible in relation to homosexuality. Mayhaps you would twist them as others have? It doesn't interest me much to waste my time.

    To say that America is 80% Christian, and that they support homosexuality... is insultingly incorrect.
    Even if you believe that the Bible is the Word of God, you must readily admit that it was translated into English (and other languages) by men. There are many religious scholars who doubt the accuracy of many translations of passages in the Bible.

    There are also many who misinterpret certain passages to for political purposes.

    What you seek is to enforce your denomination's interpretation of the Bible on everyone - thus declaring yourself to be "more Christian" than others.

    The opposite of faith is not doubt; the opposite of faith is certainty. Or do you deign to wholly know the mystery that is God?

    And besides, would you outlaw liquor because you believe it to be a sin? Should we outlaw all sin? Or can one be a Christian and also believe that our Constitution gives people the right to live life as they see fit and be treated equally under the law, regardless of their religious belief?

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    I think the most interesting thing about this is how close it comes to the election. What is Obama's position on gay marriage going to be in 2012? I don't know if the general public is ready for a pro-gay marriage platform yet. I believe in 2008 it was: personally, marriage is btw man and woman, but should be a state issue.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I think the most interesting thing about this is how close it comes to the election. What is Obama's position on gay marriage going to be in 2012? I don't know if the general public is ready for a pro-gay marriage platform yet. I believe in 2008 it was: personally, marriage is btw man and woman, but should be a state issue.
    No one is going to care about gay marriage in 2012 if the economy doesn't start to look up...

    Most people have better things to worry about then what the gayz are doing...

    I know i do...

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No one is going to care about gay marriage in 2012 if the economy doesn't start to look up...

    Most people have better things to worry about then what the gayz are doing...

    I know i do...
    This seems to be true. Social issues in 2012 will take a back seat mostly to the economic ones, unless there is a real change by then.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not understand what an opinion is?
    You're opinion equates telling everyone the sky is paisley...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you show me where the president has the power to declare a law unconstitutional?
    That he does not have the power does NOT mean he didn't declare it unconstitution, as I've said three times and you continue to claim he has not. He does have the power to instruct the DoJ not to defend the law, which is a defato end run, instead of trying to repeal said law. Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you show me that since he has declared the law unconstitutional it is no longer on the books?
    I've already addressed this with Deuce... and it's irrelevant to my argument.

    Since you're not addressing my points, I assume you cannot address them. Still want to tell me he didn't say it?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No one is going to care about gay marriage in 2012 if the economy doesn't start to look up...

    Most people have better things to worry about then what the gayz are doing...

    I know i do...
    Most reasonable people don't give a cr**, but I don't think social issues will stop be an issue for at least another decade, and by then there will probably be some new social issues raising controversy. If nothing else there will be a token question in the debates.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In either case, the president is declaring it (all or part) unconstitutional. I thought some here were saying the prez doesn't have that power.
    He doesn't, but he does have the power to have the Attorney General not fight against it when it's challenged in court. The judiciary will still make the final decision. Duh!! So simple even a 60 year old senile retard like me can understand it. LOL.
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