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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You keep repeating the same tired stuff that has been refuted repeatedly in this thread. read the full text of Holder's comments. Read the other articles linked here. Just repeating the same false, refuted stuff again and again does not, and will not make it true.

    Hint: if Obama was declaring the law unconstitutional, why is it still the law of the land?
    Wouldn't it be comparable to not enforcing blue laws? In that the law still exists but it just is not enforced.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Wouldn't it be comparable to not enforcing blue laws? In that the law still exists but it just is not enforced.
    Nothing like that actually since the law is in fact still enforced. Holder made mention of this in his statements.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because it's the law... or does that part elude you? What if a Governor said "We're no longer going to enforce speed limits".
    You mean like Montana did?
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Actually, I'm looking for another example comparable to the DOMA situation. A President declares a voted on, signed bill which is currently law, unconstitutional and then refuses to defend that law.
    Presidents give their opinion on laws all the time and it's not a "refusal to defend" it's a "I have no argument with which to defend this law." You've been shown this repeatedly. At this point I start to wonder if you're deliberately dodging this.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Imagine if a President Palin decided that the Federal Government would no longer uphold Roe vs Wade...

    *props to Newt for that idea.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Imagine if a President Palin decided that the Federal Government would no longer uphold Roe vs Wade...

    *props to Newt for that idea.
    No one is not upholding DOMA. Good lord people, read the thread, this has been addressed with multiple sources repeatedly, including the press release from the AG office which explicitly mentions that DOMA is still valid and the law of the land and will be enforced.

    Newt was either lying or poorly informed as you could have found out with about 30 seconds of research.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    you cannot legislate morality, and that's what DOMA tries to do.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    you cannot legislate morality, and that's what DOMA tries to do.
    Morality is the foundation of pretty much every law. What a silly statement.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Morality is the foundation of pretty much every law. What a silly statement.
    Not necessarily, though largely true. Many laws are on the books that legislate morality.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Because it's the law... or does that part elude you? What if a Governor said "We're no longer going to enforce speed limits".
    Yea, like some did during the national 55mph thing in the '70s. Then everybody was driving 65 to 70 once instructions were given no to enforce, verbally that is. I guess that made it OK.

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